Wm. T. Rae & Co., Trenton, NJ. S/N 1552608

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  1. Glacierman

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    #1 Glacierman, Mar 17, 2017
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    Wm. T. Rae & Co., Trenton, NJ. S/N 1552608.

    This is a sidewinder in an Illinois Watchcase Co. screw bezel/back case. There is no brand given on the dial which is filled with an equestrian scene showing two men on horseback. No photos yet, unfortunately. The case is a real pain to open, and as it is a lever set movement and I have to unscrew the bezel to set it, I don't do that. I just wind it from time to time. I set it once when I first got it and that pretty well convinced me to not bother in the future.

    Rae & Co. went out of business in 1908 and their remaining stock was sold at public auction.
     
  2. Kent

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    Hi Glacierman:

    As I'm sure you're aware, if you'd like us to help identify your watch, it would be helpful if you could post pictures of the movement (the "works") and markings stamped inside of the watch case (you can ignore any "hand-scratched" characters, they're watch repairers' marks), the clearer and sharper, the better. Clearness and sharpness is important as differences in makes, watch grades or case material markings can be subtle. Other pictures will help a little, but these are the most important. We may be able to identify it by the shape of the plates.

    For instructions on posting pictures, see the Global Thread entitled "How to Add a Picture from your PC or Laptop" which is also listed at the top of the forum.

    It's also helpful if you can post (i.e., type out) all the markings that are inside of the case and that are on the movement, especially the movement serial number, in case they can't be seen in the picture(s).

    Good luck,
     
  3. Dave Coatsworth

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    Hi Glacierman,
    Does your watch movement look something like this with a single winding wheel exposed and a half moon click? If so, then you have an Illinois 16-size model 4 grade 172, per your serial number.

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    Yup. That's the beastie. The "Wm. T. Rae & Co." is hard to read on mine due to the fancy engraving all around it. I note that the designs on the one above do not appear to be as noticeable as on mine, where the company's name is quite obscured, even in oblique lighting.

    Thanks for verifying the movement manufacturer.

    You guys rock!
     
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