William Freeman, High Holborn verge dial clock 1780s?

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  1. jmclaugh

    jmclaugh Registered User

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    Lucky you Nick, the case and dial look really good, look forward to seeing the restored movement.
     
  2. novicetimekeeper

    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    Me too. I'm hoping the hands have come up well, they were quite corroded and the minute hand had a break and a bend.

    Not sure about the screws to hold it to the surround, are they supposed to be polished steel or silvered brass?
     
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    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    Well over a year since I last had this clock in the house, and nearly a year since I last saw it when it made a brief visit to a BHI meeting to be seen by Ron Rose.

    I now have it back and will take pics this weekend in decent light, it is dark when I get home.

    Work done...

    Dial resilvered
    hands repaired, polished and blued
    Case repaired, restored, and reglazed
    Lock rebuilt and new key
    new case pegs
    Movement cleaned and serviced, new gut.
    new crownwheel
    new verge
    new contrate wheel
    new centre wheel

    I'm really pleased with it, no longer a toilet seat on an orange crate.
     
  4. Uhralt

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    Looking forward to seeing the finished product. I wonder why you had to replace so many wheels? They didn't look that bad to me on the pictures.

    Uhralt
     
  5. novicetimekeeper

    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    I have the originals still, they were very thin and battered. If I can find them I'll take some pics
     
  6. Uhralt

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    Interesting. In my 18th century "Zappler" that I presented some time ago there are some wheels that are really thin, too. Almost as thin as the steel wheels in some wind-up toys. I was wondering if they are original because other wheels, like the stop works, are quite massive. I concluded that they are likely original because the turned decoration of the arbors is the same as for the other wheels. This seems to support my conclusion.

    Uhralt
     
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    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    These are original, and the restorer confirmed the case as 100% original and unaltered. Does seem to have been a good buy.
     
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    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    Forgot to get the bits which I think are at work.

    However here are pics of the finished clock. Not on the wall yet, I need to choose the fixing point the case is quite thick, I'm thinking large size screw with a washer. Once in beat I'll fix two further screws for the lugs at the bottom. The door is so heavy there is a risk the clock will come off the single screw.

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    Chris Radano Registered User

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    The bezel is unusual because it's thick and stepped. But ironically now it's restored, I can see it's period. I think you helped that clock quite a long way!
     
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  10. zedric

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    Looks great. They really have done a good job
     
  11. novicetimekeeper

    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    Wooden bezels were not around for long and as such are very unusual. When I have seen them before they have been on smaller clocks. This is huge, the dial is 12" but with the style of the day the bezel is much bigger making the clock enormous.

    I am filling up the gaps above doors with dial clocks and usually a 12" will fit but not this one.
     
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    you are up next, as owner of one of the rarest dial clocks in the World. We await pics of the restoration :)
     
  13. zedric

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    I’ve only just moved back down South, so haven’t yet got to see it - the person who is holding it for me has been ill... But hopefully I get to see it in the flesh soon!
     
  14. Sooth

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    This looks wonderful. The only thing that I find odd is why they chose to put the dial fixing screws where they did. Why not have them at the usual location of half-quarter marks? At least they would form a square in those locations.
     
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    novicetimekeeper Registered User

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    I think the answer is that it is a transition clock, and that nothing was usual at the time. It doesn't have what would later become the usual case, the usual shape movement plates, there is very little about it that conforms. My only disappointment is it doesn't have a mock pendulum.

    It is still on the floor at the moment, I hope to get it on the wall today. I need to go out and get a decent size screw and plug and will put a washer on the screw to stop it jumping off the wall when you open the door.
     
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    It is up on the wall with a 5mm screw and a washer to stop it jumping off. Not an easy position but it looks good.

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