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Grant Perry

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Alright,
I come across these beauties from time to time, so everyone must have a picture or two to share. This repair was done on a Canadian made Pequegnat clock. It looks like 1965 was the last overhaul, and its still running! What's the best that you've seen?

 

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Grant, i thought this is the correct method to bush a clock?? :?|:?|
This looks like it was done by the clock master we recently spoke about.
I think i have one to share i will get it posted soon.
Thanks for sharing these repair basics with us.:thumb:
 

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Sooth,
These repair guys must have attended the same school. I have come across a few like this now and surprisingly enough I have not found too much damage to the pivots....How were the pivots on your clock?
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What I dont understand is if someone was going to take the time and effort to do something like that, why not just drop solder into the bushing hole, then file out?

But, I guess they would not have broaches and/or needle files either.

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I have gotten several movements in the shop that has this same type of "repair". I believe the "repair" person didnt have a means of letting down the springs for dissasembly so this was the best they could do.


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Grantmjp said:
Wow Kenny,
That one is just plain ugly :clap:
Do you notice that these guys also use way more solder then necessary?
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Probably electrical solder, or plumbers solder.
But on the plus side, it kept that nice clock out of the land fill until a proper repair could be made.
 

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Yes it looked like plummers solder. This movement also has the fan fly soldered so where it wouldnt slip. This kind of "repair" is fairly common in my area making me wonder if its coming from the same "repair "person.

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Ken,

Do you always use this term so losely?

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Ken said:
This kind of "repair" is fairly common in my area making me wonder if its coming from the same "repair "person.

Kenny
 

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Ken said:
Yes it looked like plummers solder. This movement also has the fan fly soldered so where it wouldnt slip. This kind of "repair" is fairly common in my area making me wonder if its coming from the same "repair "person.

Kenny
These 'repairs' with solder might be quite old. These days, it would be much easier and quicker to do a similar kluge using epoxy glue.
 

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I saw a soldered fly on a ogee that was bought in a antique shop in the eastern townships of Quebec.Who knows maybe the same guy.:eek:
 

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This is what I found when I took the face off my latest auction find. My first impression was that the escape wheel cock had been broken and soldered, but it looks to be a piece of brass soldered on to act as a bushing. The clock is a little Waterbury cottage clock. It also has a blob of solder on one side of the fly. Sounds like a helicopter. I will now have to reread the thread on removing solder. Please excuse the photography. My camera does not do well with close-ups. This was shot through my 10x jeweler’s loupe.

Joe
 

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Joe said:
This is what I found when I took the face off my latest auction find. My first impression was that the escape wheel cock had been broken and soldered, but it looks to be a piece of brass soldered on to act as a bushing. The clock is a little Waterbury cottage clock. It also has a blob of solder on one side of the fly. Sounds like a helicopter. I will now have to reread the thread on removing solder. Please excuse the photography. My camera does not do well with close-ups. This was shot through my 10x jeweler’s loupe.

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Joe, it looks like it is cold solder; a term used when the solder is allowed to just melt and then cool, before the item you want to weld is heated up. Cold solder is dull and pitted. If it is cold solder, it will just break off without any really effort, simply because it really did not bond to the underlying pivot.

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Hi.
How's this for a fix on an antique French pendulum?

Tom :bang:

“Sometimes you really don’t know if your being rewarded or punished”
 

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"Cost of solder - $.05"
Final product: "Priceless"
http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic?id=2480ZSRlwqk5eIMeuEYdcf7DJOpGsexR864Sv4xQp5Fd3Ig=&size=l
 

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Some of these repairs would never be witnessed by the owner as they would be hidden from sight, but can you imagine getting your French clock back with the pendulum looking like Tom's! Too funny. :clap:
 

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Actually I don't think Tom's pendulum was a repair but an attempt to add weight to the pendulum to possibly slow down a fast movement.
If your going to add weight--probably as good of way as any---lol.
 

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I have had several French clocks that had the pendulum weighted like this. These clocks were all "bad marriages" and to get them to work the installer used this method of "lengthening" the pendulum as there was no room in the case.
 

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Klossee said:
Hi.
How's this for a fix on an antique French pendulum?

Tom :bang:

“Sometimes you really don’t know if your being rewarded or punished”
I think it could use a little more solder... :clap:
 

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Greetings all,

Below are a couple of examples. One with a piece of wire to hold the pivot in place, the other with Rathburn bushings (we have had previous discussions about them).

Regards,

Richard T.
 

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One with a piece of wire to hold the pivot in place,
I love that one! Whats with the cute little curly-cue in the middle? Very resourceful repair - at least he figured out what the problem was :)
 

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Sooth--I'm aware of that fact. If you notice I had an "lol" at the end of my comment.
I think the person was trying to add weight as so many do. That's why I said (with tongue in cheek) if you're going to add weight---might as well glob solder on the back of the pendulum!
Of course I have seen a mantel or two that had no room for a longer pendulum rod--then it becomes a bit of trial and error.
 

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shutterbug said:
One with a piece of wire to hold the pivot in place,
I love that one! Whats with the cute little curly-cue in the middle? Very resourceful repair - at least he figured out what the problem was :)
Shutter'

That one really took some imagination. I think the curly-cue is an attempt to create a sprig effect to give some pull to the wire.

Tom :)
 

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That one really took some imagination. I think the curly-cue is an attempt to create a sprig effect to give some pull to the wire.
Could be, Tom. But more likely his method of tensioning it so the length was right
:?|:)
 

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And how come he soldered the Rathburn? Run out of screws?

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Wow:
Thanks Jerry. I didn't realize that flux could cause so much damage.
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I'll bet that's not flux. Looks like the idiot used acid core solder. :mad:
 

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Jerry said:
bangster said:
And how come he soldered the Rathburn? Run out of screws?

bangster
He did not use a screw because drilling a hole in the plate would cause irreversable damage. :%

Here is one where a guy don't know difference between a sheet metal screw and a machine screw. :bang:
Or maybe that was all he had lying around and he wasn't about to splurge a few cents on buying the correct screw. Can you imagine any workshop that has no hardware inventory at it's disposal?

"If the only tool a man owns is a hammer, he will tend to see every problem before him as a nail."
 

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Well, you gotta admire his strength, anyway. If it resists, just crank it a bit harder, I guess :)
 

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Here is a good one too.:mysad:
A piece of mainspring soldered to movement to push the pivots to the side.
At least it was a repair , i guess.
I hope the customer was not charged alot for the job though.

 

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Sorry everyone.I really messed up on my pictures.Wish i knew how to delete these and start over.
Not the best of my posting abilities.:bang:
 

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Thanks Sooth, good suggestions.
I really goofed here.
 

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Here's one just in. This is one way to bush that I wouldn't recommend:bang: Otherwise, a nice Waterbury movement.

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Peter
 

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Tie to the ends of those cords that hang down on German count wheel clocks to activate the strike and synchronize it with the time.
 

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Jerry, just don't sell them on ebay, or they will end up back on a clock:eek:
 

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Make them into a necklace or bracelet, and give it to the wife of your enemy.

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Jerry,
Perhaps you should keep them as visual aids/examples to go along with the program you are working on. A picture or slide on a screen is one thing---passing a few of these around to the group to examine is yet another.