When where these kind of doorcatches in use??

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  1. P.Hageman

    P.Hageman Registered User

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    Everybody knows this type of doorcatch, but what I need to know for some research is: when came these doorcatches in use?? I always thought they where quite "modern", but could these been used already in the early 19th century? Or where they in use much earlier already:???: I know its an awkward question, but it can solve a lot of my questions concerning a certain clock.

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  2. chronologiker

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    Hagemann, this doorcatch is a punched part, made by an unknown supplier. A exaxt dating is not possible, but I would date it at the beginning of the 20th. century at the earliest.

    Hope this helps!

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  3. novicetimekeeper

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    This style of catch was certainly in use in the 17th century, the earliest examples in my collection are 18th century.


    (Very annoyingly one of my earliest is now incomplete, I have the hook but not the staple. I collected a longcase in a hire car and did not realise the staple had fallen out until the car had been returned)
     
  4. chronologiker

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    Yes the disign is rather old, but It looks like a punched out doorcatch to me, not like a handmade one.

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    I think the question was when was this style first used on clocks, not the age of this particular example.
     
  6. shimmystep

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    Remember what it looked like Nick, email me a drawing, I'll make you one :)
     
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    It was a while ago but I will do that. Thanks

    Will sort it over the weekend.
     
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    Give me the rough dimensions too Nick
     
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    A simple hook latch like this to hold a door or lid has likely been in use for thousands of years. When it comes to clocks, yes they were used on clocks in the late 18th century abd early19th century. And example is New Hampshire mirror clocks from the 1820s and 1830s.
     
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    This one is late 18th century possibly a bit earlier. (The clock is definitely that but the case looks earlier.)

    BTW I had a look at the one in your pic a bit closer, I think it is handmade, how old do you think that one is?

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  11. P.Hageman

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    Thanks friends, I knew it was perhaps an akward question. But its quite important to me. This doorcatch is from my Frisian wallclock and as I could not find another similair example, I wondered if the case could be made 20th century. I now know its for sure an original antique clock. Even the owner of a museum specialised in Frisian clocks told me, it was original and he had never seen such a clock before. Nick, you are right in that this doorcatch was handmade, I closely examined it and there are filemarks on the back. A collector of Frisian clocks told me it was a "museum piece". I bought the clock because I liked it, but the extra information is a bonus :D

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    I rather like it too.
     
  13. chronologiker

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    Wonderful Hagemann!!

    May we see the movement, too?

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  14. P.Hageman

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    Chronologiker, as requested :D

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    Thanks for the pictures, Hageman!

    I'm not familiar with Frisian clocks, but I always like to learn!

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    Hageman, what age do the experts value this Frisian clock?

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  17. P.Hageman

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    Chronologiker, I was told this clock was made during the first half of the 19th century. That is consistent with the signature I found on the back of the dial, 1842.

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