Whats your single favorite pocket watch in your collection?

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  1. Clint Geller

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    I second that opinion. Dave has a wonderful watch there.
     
  2. RJSoftware

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    Yes, nice one Dave.

    When you say stem wind conversion, I take it that the watch was normally key wind but had the option to add a stem wind kit to it, that perhaps someone had elected to have installed long ago...?

    What kind of escapement does it have, cant tell.

    I don't have one of those Egg type verge fusee pocket watches, with the non English lever (I forget name now) but they can even run without a hairspring. I love them already...

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  3. musicguy

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    Great watch Dave!

    I was at my watch repairer yesterday and he showed me
    something in a little bag that looked to me like a small movement.
    He said, "do you know what this is" (I didn't)
    It was a Picard key to stem wind conversion part.


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  4. Tom McIntyre

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    Dave's watch is a spring detent chronometer. The thin spring that can be seen point at the balance staff is the clue.

    Here are a couple of slides that show similar examples from the same town. These are from the Wing collection.

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  5. John Cote

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    Dave...That would have to be almost anybody's favorite. WOWZERS!
     
  6. Greg Frauenhoff

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    One of my favorites (it's hard to pick just one) is Henry Cain's 18 size Aurora/Hamilton prototype.


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  7. Dave Chaplain

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    RJ,

    The watch I show has the Earnshaw type spring detent escapement, as do the two that Tom shows. And I can't say when the key to stem wind conversion was done, but it's simple and elegant with few parts required, and results in the watch being stem wind and key set. I assume the watch was key wind key set when originally finished as the stem wind conversion winding wheel covers part of the signature, and I assume the conversion was done when it was cased in this particular case. The time between finishing and casing is anyone's guess - either at first casing, or possibly later?!

    And thanks to all for the nice comments. :)

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  8. Mad Dog

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    Greetings from Cincinnati, OH...I very recently joined the NAWCC and this is my first post on the forum...I see many very nice favorite pocket watches here.

    My single favorite pocket watch in my collection is my Hamilton 992 [c. 1930] that I purchased from my Uncle Jim [a watchmaker/clockmaker/collector] about 20 years ago. It's my first railroad standard pocket watch and I wear it for leisure as well as occasionally at work. Because it's my first railroad standard pocket watch as well as acquired from within the family, it's my favorite.
     
  9. Clint Geller

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    Welcome to the NAWCC message board, MD.
     
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    Welcome Mad Dog!
     
  11. klokwiz

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    This is not my favorite but is one of the more unusual I have. I normally don't much care for the swiss bar movements but found this at an estate sale and thought it unusual and interesting. The entire movement is engraved, have not seen one before nor since. Joe

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    #62 musicguy, Aug 3, 2017
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    I bought this watch that was listed as a
    B W Raymond Elgin watch(a month or so ago serial number included for an actual BWR).
    Obviously it's not a B W Raymond(not even an American watch), but I still bought it because
    it was beautiful, and intriguing. The blackened silver dial
    with gold roman numerals said to me, "buy this watch". Since it was listed incorrectly
    I guess no one else looked at it.
    Graham says, "the case was made by Ebenezer White at 42 Spon Street, Coventry"
    in 1872. Currently one of my favorite watches.

    .........and it doesn't even say BW inside the case like the listing said, it says EW.
    and the BWR serial number is no where to be found(weird). I told the seller
    and they didn't care.



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  13. grtnev

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    Like a lot of folks, hard to come up with just one - and focusing just on the movement and not considering the case (which is how I approach collecting), it probably would be either the Illinois 21j Grade 189 (290 total production) or the Illinois 23j Sangamo hunting case (750 total production).

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  14. musicguy

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    Richard, your Illinois watches are very nice. The
    Gothic dials are always nice to look at(yours have my some of favorite Illinois signatures). I have the
    grade 186, and I agree they are beautiful watches(and the Getty movements are great) .

    Yes, you are right, you can't just pick one favorite.


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  15. Jerry Treiman

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    A poll like this comes up in some form every few years, but it is nice to do again as favorites can change. In the past my favorite has usually been my 12-size Waltham “American Watch Co.”-grade bridge model. And that still might be my favorite watch movement. But, selecting a favorite watch brings up additional factors such as its history or personal meaning. With that in mind, I think the following may currently be my favorite watch in my collection as it was my starting point in a major research focus for me.

    This watch has an unusual and interesting case as well as a very fine movement. The 18K rose gold case was made by H.W. Matalene, a small New Jersey casemaker who was in business from around 1909 to 1926. For most of those years Matalene worked exclusively for Waltham, and this case (ca.1912) incorporates several of his patented improvements, including a slide to release the stem/crown for setting, eliminating the need for a sleeve.
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    The 12x14 size (Colonial Series) movement was finished especially for Matalene, bearing his “Patrician” trademark. It is a finely-finished Riverside Maximus-grade movement with 23 jewels.
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    I first became aware of these special watches when I was in college (ca.1970 or so) when one crossed my bench for servicing. I had seen pin-set watches but never one where a small slide released the crown. This watch here was the second one I had seen, when it belonged to Phil Roe, another southern California collector. After many years of inquiry (read that as pestering) he finally sold it to me in 1997 and that was the start of my serious research and collecting of watches cased by Matalene.
     
  16. artbissell

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    My favorite small size p.w. is also a Matalene cased common 21j 10s Maximus. Identified for me by Jerry in a past posting. artbissell

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    #67 artbissell, Aug 13, 2017
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    CORRECTION. Another size mistake. Movement shown is similar size as the PATRICIAN, actual 10s:

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  18. Jerry Treiman

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    Thanks, Art, for showing that one again. Whereas my watch is among Matalene's earlier products (1912), yours is among his last (around 1923). He stopped using the patent setting mechanism around 1919.
     
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    #69 4mula1fan, Aug 14, 2017
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    I love my Hamilton 992E.

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