What Did this Dial Originally Look Like?

PaulWeber

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[Note: I posted this same thread in the restoration forum, but I thought it might also be appropriate to post here.]

Hello all,

My latest acquisition is a rather large, French crystal regulator (12.5" tall). The movement is marked "Made in France" so I guess it was made after around 1914.

I bought it because I thought the dial was unusual. It's like a "silvered" dial, only it's golden or maybe just brass. I was a little bit disappointed when it arrived because the dial was more tired-looking than I expected, at least compared to the seller's photos.

Anyway, so here's my question: I'm considering having the dial professionally restored. But I'm really not even sure what this dial might have looked like when it was new. was it maybe bare, brushed brass, or a painted finish? Does anyone know? And if so, could someone please post a picture of what this dial may have looked like when new. Thank you!

—Paul

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The movement is marked "Made in France" so I guess it was made after around 1914.
'Made in France' (or just 'France') on the movement indicates the clock was made after 1890.

'Made in France' (or just 'France') on the dial indicates the clock was made after 1909.

Your clock was made after 1909.

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jmclaugh

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The movement has a maker's stamp which I can't fully make out but I think is Marti. The dial imo is original, it's just a little worn.
 

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The movement has a maker's stamp which I can't fully make out but I think is Marti. The dial imo is original, it's just a little worn.
I agree with both the above thoughts.

JTD
 

PaulWeber

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'Made in France' (or just 'France') on the movement indicates the clock was made after 1890.

'Made in France' (or just 'France') on the dial indicates the clock was made after 1909.

Your clock was made after 1909.

Regards.
You taught me the difference between ”France” and “Made in France” a couple weeks ago.

This clock is marked “Made in France.”

Now, anyone know how to clean up this dial, and what it should look like when restored?
 
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PaulWeber

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You taught me the difference between ”France” and “Made in France” a couple weeks ago.

This clock is marked “Made in France.”

Now, anyone know how to clean up this dial, and what it should look like when restored?
Hey New2clock, I inserted a ”wink” emoji in my above reply, but I guess it didn’t take.
 

Jeremy Woodoff

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In the fourth picture, taken from the side, it looks as though dial is silvered, with the bezel and center medallion being gilt. That would be a logical use of finishes. In other views, though, the silvered color is less evident. Perhaps it would be more clear under the paint of the numerals whether the original finish was silver or gilt, since I think the numerals would have been painted after the metal finishing. One difficulty will be cleaning the old finish off the dial without destroying the matte surface. i don't know how these surfaces were made originally--perhaps some type of chemical process.
 

Willie X

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I would leave it, or send it out to a pro.

Note, a new looking dial will make the rest of your clock look bad.

Most French clocks are not a very good go-to clock for visual reading of the time anyway.

My 2, Willie X
 

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