What and what not to Re-Silver

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  1. JB

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    My question is what to do with the area of the name? I’m assuming I leave it. And then related to this I have another London tall case where the second dial is inset and actually part of the brass faceplate . Is it safe to assume if it’s part of the faceplate ...it stays as brass? This was my first resilvering project just followed the videos and went at it with confidence . Happy how it turned out. F9DA62EC-79C2-4815-B99B-F7890B4DD8CC.jpeg 29360B61-6E98-4235-AE22-7BF9AA58308D.jpeg B4F66204-C48B-471B-BE1B-19822111A1A4.jpeg
     
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    All you currently have silvered is all that should be silvered.

    I'll need to see a pic of the other dial to advise on that.
     
  3. JB

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    Yes I thought I should leave it. For this next dial I'm not so sure. Just to be clear I haven't touched this one yet. It needs some attention. IMG_8489.JPG
     
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    on this one the subsidiary seconds dial should be removable from the back it can then be silvered.. The cartouche with the name is removable, the screw is a mod it should have feet and pins. Date ring and chapter ring are silvered. If the silvering is still present is it better to clean and preserve where possible rather than resilver. If you use a bit of cream of tartar mixed with a little water and gently rub it with your finger that ill brighten the old silver if present.

    Every time you prepare for rsilvering you reduce the depth of the engraving which can make signatures indistinct.
     
  5. JB

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    Unfortunately the subsidiary seconds dial has been pinned and peened in place. I think it would look great if it were silvered but at this point I see no evidence that it has been silvered. Thats not to say it hasn't been polished off.
     
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    Once polished there would be no evidence, however chapter rings are invariably silvered (or silver) as far as I know, and these removable parts too. The reason is contrast for visibility in candle light and oil lamp.
     
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    View attachment 412603 My question now becomes..how to remove the peened pins. I don't want to break anything. Can I just punch them out from the back side? Carefully of course.
     
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    A photo IMG_8515.JPG
     
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    Perhaps H Betts knows!
     
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    H. Betts from Stoke Hammond, Thats close to Buzzard..no? This is where the clock resided for more than a century. I wasn't going to be satisfied with an improper seconds dial. In the end painters tape won the day. Most likely not a proper way to do it but a much safer way. Thanks! IMG_8517.JPG
     
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    Was it A Betts rather than H Betts?

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    I saw that article after googling the name ..it looks like an H...must be closely related.
     
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    I looked again, I can see it is an A the top of the letter is not fully formed.
     
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    You are right ..now that I zoomed in on it. Interesting. This is why I like collecting clocks
     
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    I think you will find that not all dial parts are always removable. Many cheaper country clocks had their chapter rings riveted in place. In those cases, you need to resilver them in place just like you did on the seconds dial. You certainly COULD un-rivet them and reinstall them, but it's far more work.
     
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