Westfield Watch Company

[Hawk53]

6 years ago today!

Happy holidays to all....

 

[PatH]

A lot of Westfield history captured in the last six years. Thanks for keeping it moving forward!

Happy holidays to you, also!

 

[Wiese]

Thank you so much for this thread; this is, atleast for a Google search of my newly acquired Westfield model, the best resource to get more information and ads about the history of Westfield.

I just bought a 1929 "Kenton" in amazing condition except for the dial with patina on it; crystal is good, but still needs at least cleaning and oiling. It is one of the drivers watches with flexible lugs.

 

[Hawk53]

Thank you so much for this thread; this is, atleast for a Google search of my newly acquired Westfield model, the best resource to get more information and ads about the history of Westfield.

I just bought a 1929 "Kenton" in amazing condition except for the dial with patina on it; crystal is good, but still needs at least cleaning and oiling. It is one of the drivers watches with flexible lugs.

Please post some pictures of your new addition, would love to see it!

 

[Hawk53]

and if you can, some movement pics would be nice...

 

[Wiese]

It will be completely restored, it needs to be cleaned, oiled and eventually a restored dial. The crystal is in unbelievable good condition, it runs and the lugs move nicely. The 10B movement runs, but weak so it will need work.

An interesting question for me would be since it didnt come with a watch case, but I would definitely want one with it, what kind of style they used in 1929 since there are different cases; maybe someone has a case of that time

 

[Wiese]

The pictures:

 

[Hawk53]

An interesting question for me would be since it didnt come with a watch case, but I would definitely want one with it, what kind of style they used in 1929 since there are different cases; maybe someone has a case of that time

You've lost me

 

[Hawk53]

The pictures:

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Are you asking about the "box" that the watch came in?

 

[Kenton]

Well, I'm a little late to the thread but I just got a Westfield so I thought I would say hello. From what I've seen, it looks like a "Kenton" from the early 1950s but don't quote me on it. It has no date markings on the case that I can find, but interestingly enough, the crown says Bulova. I don't know how this watch opens and I'm hesitant to try it, so I haven't seen if there are markings inside. I will say this, I've had it for two days and the watch is very, very accurate.

 

[Hawk53]

Don't ever underestimate the importance of reading! Seller listed this as a Westfield....I don't think so.

 

[Hawk53]

Well I never thought I'd see the day and be thoroughly shocked when it comes to Westfield watches.... However I can tell you that when I came across this I was flabbergasted. All of my years of researching Joe Bulovas illegitimate child I've not seen one indication that Westfield ever produced a solid gold watch, but indeed they did. I bought the case and the seller, or should I say scrapper, told me that he stripped and melted the case without one ounce of shame. As far as I know having never seen a ad or anything but for this case. Were you ever tempted to go cross country and slap someone till they cried?

 

[Hawk53]

Early version of the Westfield Watertite...

 

[Hawk53]

Going through my stuff and finding some that I don't think I've posted...enjoy

 

[Hawk53]

Early version of the Westfield Watertite...

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Thanks to PatH and to go along with my early Water Tite....

 

[Hawk53]

Here's a 1935 10ZL movement from 1935....aftermarket case...

 

[Hawk53]

AS REQUESTED, a larger view of the 10Zl...

 

[Hawk53]

It will be completely restored, it needs to be cleaned, oiled and eventually a restored dial. The crystal is in unbelievable good condition, it runs and the lugs move nicely. The 10B movement runs, but weak so it will need work.

An interesting question for me would be since it didnt come with a watch case, but I would definitely want one with it, what kind of style they used in 1929 since there are different cases; maybe someone has a case of that time

Did you ever find the box that was appropriate for that period watch?

 

[Hawk53]

I've got a new(old) one coming in that appears to be from 1925/26. My first thought was that it was a early "American Boy" but after doing a close comparison I think it's a case design I've not seen before. Enjoy the pics and will update when it arrives.....

 

[Hawk53]

Above watch arrived and with a little "puff" of air across the balance, running away nicely. Yay!

10AS movement and date code from 1926, service marks from early 30's. So pretty sure it's pre Bulova.

 

[Hawk53]

Two things you never want to see on a Westfield dial or bezel..........................





Pretty sure Tiffany never teamed up with Westfield, and the enameled paint on the next watch is just too comical to believe.

 

[Hawk53]

8WH movement circa 1936

 

[PatH]

Hawk53, have you previously posted a watch that would have this movement? If so, what is the post # (or if it's easier to post a new picture, that works too.) Just trying to learn more about the movements and watch styles that went together. Thanks!

 

[Hawk53]

Pat, Usually if it's a complete watch I'll post it with as much content as I can. But occasionally I'll buy a loose movement/dial just to have it for parts or just to keep it out of the landfills. That particular movement was sent to me by a friend who hadn't seen that designation before.

 

[PatH]

Thank you. I thought that might be the case - no pun intended.

 

[Hawk53]

Nice watch but not a "Bobbie"

 

[Hawk53]

1941 10ZL

 

[Hawk53]

Another 10ZL

 

[Hawk53]

Either 1935 or 1945 10ZL



triangle date code

 

[PatH]

triangle date code

Trying to learn....where is the date code found? Thanks!!

 

[Hawk53]

Hard to see in that picture, but if you look to the left of the Westfield stamp and down a little and there it is. I'll see if I can use a editor and enlarge it. In the pic above this one it's easier to see the "star" or "asterisk" to the right of Westfield.

 

[Hawk53]

Bulova and Westfield use same date codes.

 

[Hawk53]

For a moment of clarity, because I keep getting asked....

Versus by Versace Westfield Quartz Blue Leather Strap Men's Watch SCJ010016

These style listings are NOT Westfield (brand) Watches!
They just happen to be sold by Versache (company) at one of their Westfield Mall locations.

Westfield has not magically risen from the grave......

Carry on....

 

[Hawk53]

new ad 1939 .....

 

[Hawk53]

This "unknown" is kinda neat......

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Dial has been "tastefully refinished".

Has a 1945 date code

 

[Hawk53]

Size 16 pocket watch movement, three date codes for 38',39',1940, or is it 28'29' or1930? These date code symbols can fit either way.....

 

[PatH]

I hadn't noticed previously that most of the symbols repeated, so in general, do they indicate the last digit of the year rather than the last two digits? If so, any idea why they would use this numbering scheme since it seems to leave a lot open for interpretation?

 

[Hawk53]

Pat, after pappa Joe Bulova acquired Westfield, he wanted this branch of the company to use the same system that the parent company used. He was the "King of standardization"... The biggest gap was from the *symbol used for 1924 to 1941. All the others repeated frequently except for the arrow symbol only used in 1937.

 

[Hawk53]

Wish I had more ads....
This one just arrived, a little tinkering and now running.
Sporting a 10ZC movement, 17 jewels marked 46 for 1946.

A good candidate for a complete restoration...

 

[LLRunyon]

Very nice addition! Do you thing the link bracelet was an option, or just a later replacement?

Thanks, Pat

Recently acquired an original air queen with the original box. It has a metal mesh adjustable band.

 

[Hawk53]

8 year anniversary Happy Holidays All!

 

[sweepthedog]

I wanted an art deco watch and came across this westfield. The shield code on the back looks to date it to 1929 but I am worried the enamel isnt original as a previous poster pointed it out. From the UK so new to US watches

 

[Hawk53]

I'd agree with the 1929 date, the enamel is not original as these came with stones i.e. emeralds or sapphires, or ruby. Still a beautiful watch in good shape. Does it run?

 

[sweepthedog]

Hi! Runs fine 6 jewels. The enamel was apparently done by the Providence case company another user suggested on here,? But I agree usually emeralds are found on them. The dial hands and strap are original according to the seller. I agree its very nice the black paint adds to the 20s glam if you ask me
We are looking for another 20s watch with emeralds/sapphires , preferably a Bulova/Westfield pre 1928 if anyone knows anyone who would sell to the UK we would be always open to take a look.
Cheers

 

[Hawk53]

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with whomever told you that Providence Watch case company put these cases out into the marketplace with the black paint. The examples I've seen and examined under extreme magnification appeared pretty sloppy. I've also never seen a example in any advertising unlike the gem versions.

I'm not saying they're not nice, I'm saying I'm hesitant to call them factory originals without proof of some sort.....

 

[Hawk53]

Sad to report that a great resource and knowledge base seems to have gone the way of the "Dodo" ....

Bulova - Vintage and Antique Bulova Watches

Lisa did great work and her site and collection was spectacular.

 

[Hawk53]

Happy to note that Lisa's site is back up for information purposes but not what it was in it's heyday when it was active and open.....

 

[Hawk53]

Hi! Runs fine 6 jewels. The enamel was apparently done by the Providence case company another user suggested on here,? But I agree usually emeralds are found on them. The dial hands and strap are original according to the seller. I agree its very nice the black paint adds to the 20s glam if you ask me
We are looking for another 20s watch with emeralds/sapphires , preferably a Bulova/Westfield pre 1928 if anyone knows anyone who would sell to the UK we would be always open to take a look.
Cheers

Did you ever find a "pre 30's watch with the emeralds or sapphires?

 

[Hawk53]

For reference, replacement crystal for one of the "American Boy" watches......