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Welch steeple clock

binman

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Brought this at the weekend at a local auction, lovely bird on this one, cost 7.5$ £5 here, but I have a problem, the pendulum leader is so long I'm unable to hang the bob on it, is it wrong leader or Bob? Could you also try and date this clock for me. It will get a good clean( movement) later, case is in very good condition.thanks.

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The feather end of the suspension spring/pendulum leader appears to be hanging on the loop of the verge crutch. Of course, the pendulum won't properly fit like that. The feather end should hang in the slotted arbor located just under the entrance pallet of the verge., as shown in your picture. Your picture is not clear, but there seems to be a major bodge in that area of the clock. Better pictures may be needed.

Tran shows a number of sharp gothic (steeple) clocks. This one might date from the 1870's, but that is a guess.
 

abe

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A lovely bird? I was looking for a cute girl on the clock!

Really, that is a nice clock. I hope you can solve the problem.
 

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As Steven says the feather of the leader should be in the slot of the hanger, slide it in, and if its too loose, tighten by closing the end, just the end as the feather as the feather needs to be able to not bind up in the slot.
 

Tinker Dwight

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It might need a new pendulum leader.
The feather looks to have broken at the slot
( I can see a piece still there ).
I can't see how the feather was bent to get it to hang
on the crutch.
One can keep the feather from sliding out of the slot
by using a punch to make a dimple in the feather part
that is above the slot.
The slot doesn't need to be real tight.
Anyway, get it hung correctly and you can see if the rate can
be adjusted. If not, you may have to replace the feather and
rod with a new one.
Get it right and take another picture to see if it looks correct.
Tinker Dwight
 

lpbp

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One can keep the feather from sliding out of the slot
by using a punch to make a dimple in the feather part
that is above the slot.
The slot doesn't need to be real tight.
The dimple will keep it from sliding down in the slot, but not out of the slot towards the dial, dimple the top of the spring, or buy one that has a wire through the top, then close the very end of the slot to keep it from sliding out the front, keeping the slot loose on the feather.
 
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Tinker Dwight

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The dimple will keep it from sliding down in the slot, but not out of the slot towards the dial, dimple the top of the spring, or buy one that has a wire through the top, then close the very end of the slot to keep it from sliding out the front, keeping the slot loose on the feather.
A small notch filed on the top of the slotted post works well and
you don't have to bend the post that may break next time
it is worked on.
Dwight
 
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binman

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Found the slot, there is so much crud I missed it, will send new photo once I have cleaned the movement, there is a set in the rod which I think should align with the loop on the end of the crutch, if that is the case the leader is a bit short. But we will see,
 

Tinker Dwight

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Sounds like you have it under control now.
The rod should feed through the loop on the crutch.
It should be a relatively tight fit but with clearance.
Tinker Dwight
 

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