American Way heavy duty Waterbury mantle

Discussion in 'General Clock Discussions' started by Richard A. Barton, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  1. Richard A. Barton

    Richard A. Barton Registered User
    NAWCC Member Golden Circle

    Jun 16, 2011
    3
    1
    3
    Jeweler
    Twin Falls, Idaho
    I'm currently working a Waterbury with three drum enclosed heavy duty springs. The winding mechanism has reduction gears to aid in winding! I've never seen this type of movement in a mantle clock. 'Anybody familiar with this heavy duty monster? The back plate is 1/4" steel and the front is thicker brass. I haven't found anything like it on Ebay or anywhere else.

    20200731_162023_resized.jpg 20200731_162105_resized.jpg 20200731_162047_resized.jpg
     
    one1laner likes this.
  2. D.th.munroe

    D.th.munroe Registered User

    Feb 15, 2018
    505
    188
    43
    Male
    Full time clock and watchmaker
    BC Canada
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Havent seen a waterbury like that but it does look alot like a Seth Thomas 113 not exactly but very close.
    Dan
     
    one1laner likes this.
  3. Jeremy Woodoff

    Jeremy Woodoff Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Jun 30, 2002
    4,100
    53
    48
    Brooklyn
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    This is Waterbury Chime Clock No. 495, from the 1923 catalog. It is one of the Majestic Chime Clocks with "the finest Waterbury chime movement." "In every way Majestic Clocks express quality, refinement and distinction. The marvelous tone of the Chimes, the accurate reliability of the movement and the painstaking care with which the fine cabinet work of the cases is finished give them a character which is unsurpassed. When the occasion calls for the selection of the very finest grade of clock a Majestic will meet every requirement."
     
    one1laner and PatH like this.
  4. wow

    wow Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Jun 24, 2008
    4,133
    291
    83
    Male
    Retired Music Minister
    Pineville, La. (central La.)
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Interesting movement. I’ve never seen one. Well made. I wonder if that back plate is steel or just plated to make it “majestic” ? Is it attracted to a magnet?
     
    one1laner likes this.
  5. Isaac

    Isaac Registered User

    Aug 5, 2013
    811
    125
    43
    Male
    Student
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    A nice high-grade chiming clock. As stated above, this is a "Majestic" movement that features solid pinions, geared winding arbors, and should be self-correcting with the chimes. They came in upright cases and tambour cases (such as yours). As noted, these movements have thick plates and were of durable construction. Yours will strike on a singular note.

    An earlier 3 train movement (not the triple decker movement) was used before the "Majestic" series, but those had unbarreled mainsprings and were troubling to service due to having few options to contain the huge mainsprings. Also of interesting note is that the grandfather variants of these movements used a steel band to connect the weights together, and used 2 weights to run 3 trains. The grandfather type movements strike on a singular rod, while the upright/bracket examples struck a chord for the strike.
     
    Bruce Alexander and one1laner like this.
  6. chimeclockfan

    chimeclockfan Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Dec 21, 2006
    4,090
    230
    63
    Chime clock & gong studies.
    WI
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Herschede, Seth Thomas, Waterbury, and Ansonia all made movements to this general outline during the 1920's, it was a typical Westminster mantel chime movement setup that gave the service & sound desired in the American trade. The chain drop hammers give a stronger impact compared to normal hammers, giving a more substantiated sound in accordance with processed silver bellmetal gong rods, which have a sharper voice compared to plain copper rods. Very different from what "flew" in Britain and Germany's domestic trades at that time. The German-manufactured Jacques & Celebrate movements for Borgfeldt in New York follow the same basic outline and once in a while you'll find other German movements in American cases with the same setup.

    Herschede and Ansonia later ditched the chain hammers in favor of further development regarding the gong blocks & hammers. American mantel chime clock development pretty much died after the second world war when it was more feasible to import stock German clocks altogether. Sadly as with many topics about 20th century chime clocks, there aren't many published books about these clocks and catalog material is rarer than hen's teeth.
     
    Isaac, Bruce Alexander and one1laner like this.

Share This Page