Waterbury Star Movement Dismantling

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I have a Waterbury Enameled Iron "Alps" clock. It is an eight day, half hour strike with the stat movement. I am beginning restoration. I removed the movement from the case and let down the power. Taking the movement apart I have reach a point where ... I don't think this movement was designed to be taken apart.

There is an arbor that has wheels mounted on either end that is a part of the motion works. Unless I can take it out of the plate, there isn't room to remove the springs and their wheel and arbor.

If you have seen this "Star" movement, please give me the answer to getting it apart. I think the small wheel on the outside of the plate has to come off. But I could be wrong.

I am thankful for all suggestions and advice.

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Is that wheel on the outside portion of the plates threaded on? The arbor looks potentially like it's threaded from the tip that I see, but my eyes could easily be playing tricks with me.
 

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Yes, the wheels must be removed first. A small puller and/or a crows foot tool is what I used. Be very careful. They are pressed on.
 

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the wheel is crimped on. I double check wishing it was threaded. Today I will try the pullers I have.

(fingers crossed)
 

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Removing a pressed on wheel often goes a lot easier is the wheel is first heated for a few seconds with a small butane torch. Have fun with this one! A candidate for the top 10 most difficult, or at least craziest design.

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I have successful removed the wheel !!

Once I received the confidence that the wheel WOULD come off (thank you all who weighed in), I used my favorite wheel puller to accomplish the task. I got this wheel puller from a mentor and it is a wonder when working Hermle movements. If they are still available, check CheckingTime.com

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I just did one of these movements last week and once I broke the wheel loose with a puller, it came off easy. I had to remove the front one to get the springs and arbors off and the rear one because the hole needed bushing. It’s back up and running now. The wheels are much easier to put back on than to get off.
I haven’t seen that puller before. Looks good. I’ll check it out.
 

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I'm curious about that back side rack without a corresponding snail or tail. Do you know what function that has?
 

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Interesting. Yours makes sense. His has neither a tail nor a snail. Hmmmm :)
 

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The STAR movement has a snail between the pates and a pivoting lever that acts as a tail (between the pates).

When I get it back together I will attach additional images.
 

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I am having a heck of a time putting one back together on my bench. The important photos of "where the gears go where" have been deleted somehow" I always take photos when dismantling clocks that I have never worked on. Would you have any?

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I have never worked on one of these movements before , would you have a picture of the gears in place. I lost my picture I took on disassembly and am having a hard time placing them correctly. I would appreciate it very much!
Thanks
 

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There is a snail on the one you posted in post number 12 (first photo). Yours has the rack but no snail in post number 13.
 

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I do have the snail and it is on the movement but not in the photo

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Like Will, I'm a little confused. Could you post a picture of your clock as it is now?
Also, is the piece in post #15 one for which you're unsure of the placement?

Thanks!
 

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Like Will, I'm a little confused. Could you post a picture of your clock as it is now?
Also, is the piece in post #15 one for which you're unsure of the placement?

Thanks!
I'm Sorry for the confusion, here is the movement as it is now. I'm having trouble getting the time wheels back where they belong.I work on Seth Thomas clocks all the time

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In his original photo's he didn't have the snail in place. I think that's where the confusion started.
 

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Tim, your first photos in post 12 show the snail in place on the back side of the movement. Your photo in post 13 shows it missing.
 

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