Waterbury movement

[MFRC1956]

I have repaired a Waterbury movement marked Pat.date sept.22. 1874 and I am no quite certain how it should strike.
The movement was in parts when I got it and I have replaced the steel pins in some of the wheels as they were broken or damaged.
The wires in the "striking department" were damaged as well and now that I have sorted it out as I think it should be it seems that it only strikes every full hour, nothing else. Further it only strikes once, should it strike 1 for 1 o´clock, 2 for 2 o´clock and so on or are there different types?

 

[R. Croswell]

It would help to see a picture or at least to know it it has a count wheel or rack and snail strike system. Waterbury made both types.

RC

 

[MFRC1956]

It has a count wheel, I did get the strike function to work for a moment but something isn´t quite right in the wire adjustment, they seem to work against each other - guess it is a question of bending everyone of them in the right order so they will interact correctly.
I know that all parts are in the right place so it is the striking part which need to be adjusted.

 

[Jay Fortner]

You may have the warning lever and maintainence lever reversed or crossed. Pics would help.

 

[Tom Kloss]

It has a count wheel, I did get the strike function to work for a moment but something isn´t quite right in the wire adjustment, they seem to work against each other - guess it is a question of bending everyone of them in the right order so they will interact correctly.
I know that all parts are in the right place so it is the striking part which need to be adjusted.

Hi MFRC1956

Not quite sure what you mean by "wires" If it's the levers you are adjusting, you have to be careful. When adjuating levers you have to tread softly because a "little is a lot. A small adjustment or bend could be too much. As RC and Jay said some pictures would be very helpful in this case.

Tom

 

[MFRC1956]

I haven´t got a camera handy.

The levers are made from 1,5mm wire, the warning and maintenance levers seem to engage as they should but the others on the other side where one of them is at an angle of 90 degrees against the counting wheel seems to work improperly.

 

[shutterbug]

So if I'm understanding correctly, it does strike, but only once. That means it's going into warn correctly, but the stop lever is too low and encountering the stop pin prematurely. The stop lever is held up by the cam so it can't drop until a deep groove is encountered.

 

[MFRC1956]

I must have assembled it wrong, some of the pins on the wheels doesn´t stop in the correct places and the lever isn´t in the groove on the cam wheel either. Worst thing is that I havent´t the faintest how these pins and levers should interact, there are five levers in all. Hasn´t somebody explained this in some way, a drawing or something?

 

[shutterbug]

I must have assembled it wrong, some of the pins on the wheels doesn´t stop in the correct places and the lever isn´t in the groove on the cam wheel either. Worst thing is that I havent´t the faintest how these pins and levers should interact, there are five levers in all. Hasn´t somebody explained this in some way, a drawing or something?

Here, this might help. The locking cam lever must be in the notch at the same time that the count hook enters the deep groove, and at the same time the stop pin much encounter the strike stop lever. The wheel with the stop pin is not shown. You could probably make these adjustments without separating the plates. Let the springs down, remove the nut from that corner. pull the fan and second wheel away from the connecting wheel, set the other two where they need to be, put the stop pin next to the stop lever, put the fan back in and test it. Might take a couple of times to get it right.

 

[MFRC1956]

The .pdf did the trick! There are two levers on that side and I concentrated on the pin stopping at the warning lever and not the strike stop lever. LOL! I moved the wheel 90 degress and it is much better! It isn´t that easy when the levers are not looking as the should, all bent!

I removed the screw in the corne and pulled the fan and second wheel, the wheels are where the need to be, all is locking, grooving and stopping now, "only" thing left is the adjustment of the levers as it is striking once all the time but is near now now, I am still not quite at it but it is getting clearer. A little bending here and there now, I´ll take it easy.

Thanks for all good input!

 

[MFRC1956]

Eureka! Sometimes during the day I swore through my teeth - "how the hell were they thinking when they made this, crazy Waterbury people".
It wasn´t that hard, easy to say when you get it right in the end. The arm that counts was of course set too deep so it stopped at every notch, I lifted it a tad and there it was, striking as it should again, hats off and many thanks for all help!