Waterbury Moon Phase Long Case clock ID

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  1. delemeyer

    delemeyer Registered User

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    Hello! Need help identifying a grandfather clock that's been in the family (we believe) for well over 100 years. It's fully functioning, recent cleaned and oiled, and we find the etched name of Waterbury and a hand-etched serial number of 271017-090. Any idea what model this may be and approximate year of manufacture? Love this beautiful time piece. BTW - a short video with detail images and the chime sound at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oPP74yDKkg

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  2. lpbp

    lpbp Registered User
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    I have checked two sources for your clock, and I don't find that case listed in them, the dial, pendulum appear correct, and the others date in the 1910-1912 period. They could have been manufactured before of after that date.
     
  3. Brian Smith

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    My best guess is that your clock is the Herschede Pattern No.227 from around 1916. That clock was 7 ft tall by 19" wide and 12-1/4" deep. Let us know how I did.
     
  4. delemeyer

    delemeyer Registered User

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    Brian - the clock works are clearly Waterbury. Is it possible for a Herschede pattern to contain Waterbury works?

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    I have not been able to find (online) any other pictures with a case like this one. The "guts" are clearly Waterbury. Could this have been a custom case? We did not investigate the case separately for additional identifiers
     
  5. delemeyer

    delemeyer Registered User

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    Do you have a picture of the Herschede Pattern No. 227? Can you share, please?

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    Thank you. I am curious what sources you checked. Might there be additional resources that could be consulted?
     
  6. prideofmatchingham

    prideofmatchingham Registered User

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    I am no expert; just that the hand etched serial number looks very much like typical watch/clockmakers' scribbles denoting service date. Possibly 27th Oct 1917, the date it was serviced?!
     
  7. delemeyer

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    Unknown.... Thanks for the input.
     
  8. Tinker Dwight

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    Any other marks on the case?
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  9. delemeyer

    delemeyer Registered User

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    Yes - 17 and 27 on the long case door trim and 15 and 27 in two places on the head 15 and 27 Head.jpg 17_27 Long Case.jpg
     
  10. delemeyer

    delemeyer Registered User

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    Thank you so much! This is enormously helpful. I've had one other appraiser suggest that the date for the clock is, indeed, 1910/1911, but the case is a custom-built case to the buyer's specifications. They have seen only one other custom Waterbury case.
     
  11. Tinker Dwight

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    Waterbury tall clocks are just not that common. I don't think
    they made them for too many years.
    Tinker Dwight
     

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