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  1. WRabbit

    WRabbit Registered User
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    I ran across quite a few water damaged clocks after Hurricane Katrina, some that had been underwater for days. I assume this event (Harvey) will result is more of the same.

    Jim
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    I live on a hill, so if it floods here the end of the World will be nigh, but when I saw this pic earlier it did make me wonder about how I would save my clocks. I live in a bungalow so the lost would have been my only choice and that would be pretty difficult getting all the longcases up there. I think moving them to somebody else's house where they live even further above sea level would have been the only answer.

    I did live in a village with a history of flooding once, there was a stone opposite with the high water mark of the last flood. Fortunately there were significant flood prevention works after that and it has never flooded so bad since.

    As the climate changes these events will become more common and more severe, people will have to take this into account when they choose where to live.
     
  3. roughbarked

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    If people were naturally so clever, they would never have built where any possibility of flooding would occur within any one or two hundred year period. The real problem is that we aren't so clever. We are naturally lazy and would prefer to live near the water than carry it up a hill.

    Due to health issues and insurance issues, all flood damage must be sent to the rubbish tip. At least this has proven to be the case in Australia and much of the world.
     
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    It is a changing world, and we will need to change and adapt.
     
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    It always was. The main issue is that humans would prefer not to bother until it is too late.
     
  6. Tinker Dwight

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    As soon as possible, get the movement out of the case.
    Hose it off.
    Put in in a bucket of car anti-freeze.
    Later on, one can then deal with the cleaning.
    The case is another story. I don't think anit-freeze will
    do much for the finish or the case.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  7. novicetimekeeper

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    It worked for the Mary Rose, but that had spent quite a long time underwater! (well actually that was polyethylene glycol, not ethylene glycol , which I think is less toxic)
     
  8. TJ Cornish

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    That sounds nice and all, but hurricanes affect around 20% of the land mass of the USA. Factor in earthquakes, ice storms, river flooding, tornados, nuclear fallout, etc., and there isn't much country left that isn't at significant risk of something. It's a risk analysis. The same principle is true in building construction. Concrete block structures and underground bunkers are robust but not very popular.
     
  9. Chris Radano

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    Good Luck! Please stay safe. Harvey victims are in our prayers.
     
  10. roughbarked

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    My comment was merely about flooding and to the fact that whole cities could always have been put somewhere else. I agree that the risks are out there and building codes etc should all be up to the required standards.

    As to the climate, we could always have paid attention and climate change wouldn't be of such a surprise.
     
  11. shutterbug

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    We had a flood several years ago, and I had the opportunity to work on a grandfather clock that had been floating in the water for several weeks (people were not allowed to enter their own homes until they had been inspected and approved for entry). I restored the movement, and a man from the Amana Colonies Clock Shop restored the case. It all came together quite well, and looked good again.
     
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    I have lived behind a flood levy for the last 32 years. My house survived the last 100 year flood we had back in 1929 and the levy system we have now is much superior to what was in place back then. Our council took note of what happened with Hurricane Katrina and determined that they would like to prevent the same thing occurring here. So they embarked on a land buy back to enable a major expansion of the levy system. I think TJ is right, you analyse the risks and then mitigate them the best you can. For us that means having the right insurance and being prepared to leave at first notice.
     
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    I was just 3 feet above all of it, so blessed, and feel so bad for those who lost everything.
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    I would have found a way to put the clock and other similar valuables in the attic. Furniture that I could move stored on the second floor.
    There was time to do this before the flooding occurred.
     
  15. TJ Cornish

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    Houston was incorporated in 1836, so this is nearly a 200-year flood no matter how you look at it. I think now is more the time for compassion than blaming the victims, but just like after Katrina and other major floods, these things will get re-evaluated and redesigned and I'm sure Houston will be better protected in the future; though I'm not sure short of moving the city 100 miles inland how you design to withstand 50+ inches of rain in a few days.

    I went with our church group to help dig out after Katrina. The water level through the parts of the city where we worked was about 7', so putting valuables in the 2nd floor would have helped protect them from the flood in that instance, but not necessarily from the looters. Disasters tend to bring out both the best and the worst in us. Hopefully Houston will recover quickly.
     
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    i'm at at the top of the east bay hills in the sf bay area... if i get flooded, clocks will not be on my list of issues that need dealing with.

    on the other hand, i am very close to the area that burned in '91, destroying 4k+ homes... not to mention the earthquake of '89.

    now, the news from texas is concerning and disheartening...

    i think the answer is: live every day, appreciate every day, enjoy health and material possessions because they can be gone very quickly... but also have as much of a plan in place as possible assuming 1) virtually no notice, 2) a little bit (hours) of notice and 3) a little more notice... knowing full well that not all of the clocks (or, in my case, clocks and guitars) will make it. 8-(


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    I think we will get flooded before you do!
     

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