Warmink Wuba repair parts

[Ken Cheryba]

I have a weight driven WARMINK Wuba wall clock that has 2 teeth missing on the hour wheel and 2 partial(1/2) broken teeth on the motion works pinion that drives the wheel The snail, pinion and wheel of the motion works are some sort of composite. It belongs to friends of ours and they would like to have it fixed for sentimental reasons. I am a novice at this but am willing to do the work if I can source the parts.Thanks for your advice.

 

[wow]

Photos of the broken parts and the whole movement would help us help you.

 

[Ken Cheryba]

I would love to send the pictures but am having trouble attaching them to this thread.

 

[wow]

I would love to send the pictures but am having trouble attaching them to this thread.

Below the box there is an “attach files” tab. Click on it and then select the photos you want to share.

 

[Ken Cheryba]

Warmink Wuba photos with closeups of damaged parts. Thanks everyone. Fingers crossed. Ken

 

[shutterbug]

I hate plastic in clocks! The good news is that all clocks run the same ratio there, so if the parts fit and mesh together well, you could use another movement as a donor.

 

[Ken Cheryba]

I hate plastic in clocks! The good news is that all clocks run the same ratio there, so if the parts fit and mesh together well, you could use another movement as a donor.

Thanks Shutterbug. Do not have a donor as most of my tinkering is of the one -off random type. Could use some further guidance on the donor concept such as how and where to go and with what info I need to get a suitable fit. As you can tell I am relatively new to this and have only worked on about 14 or so clocks during the past 4 years.

 

[Dick Feldman]

Can you tell us what is stamped on the rear plate of the clock movement?
It is a long shot but that may help determine who made the movement.
Your third picture shows the broken teeth well but also shows extensive wear in the Front/#1 wheel pivot hole to the NW of the hand shaft in the picture.
Unfortunately, teeth do not just fall off. Something caused that to happen and if you do not correct the real cause of the problem it may happen again. It may be that someone had forced something to cause the problem.
Best Regards,
Dick

 

[Burkhard Rasch]

remember that Warmink/Wuba were not clockmakers but casemakers who put in various movements from mostly german manufacturers in their cases. The mvmt. probably is a Hermle , maybe there are parts or a replacement still availiable.
Burkhard

 

[Ken Cheryba]

remember that Warmink/Wuba were not clockmakers but casemakers who put in various movements from mostly german manufacturers in their cases. The mvmt. probably is a Hermle , maybe there are parts or a replacement still availiable.
Burkhard

Thanks Dick and Burkhard. The engraving on the plate is WUBA 261 030A and 31cm. I did see the wear. The owner advised that the clock was accessible to some rambunctious children throughout its life and said it was possible that someone may have moved the minute hand backwards when resetting the time. And that she remembered that her dad was always adjusting the time.She wasn't aware of it being dropped.It actually ran for me for about 3 weeks albeit weirdly(hour hand would gain about 4 hours over a 12 hour period and the hour hand would start to have 1 minute of play around 11:05 and that would increase to 2 minutes by 11:55 and be normal again after 12:00.) I kept a journal during those 3 weeks and the only consistency was the warning wheel , as well as the rack drop sounded proper and the minute hand kept near perfect time. It finally just stopped. When it stopped around 11:55 there was about 2 minutes of play in the hour hand and the hour hand resisted any manual movement.That was when I decided remove the clock movement to see what was causing all of the radical behaviour. I suspect the erratic behaviour was caused when the broken and damaged teeth approached each other. Ken

 

[Dick Feldman]

Ahah, he said!
261-030/31 is a Hermle movement with the pendulum length being 31 mm.
That movement is still made and available new from the normal movement suppliers.
Many used movements are available on eBay or other sites as parts and similar movements may be a source for those parts. The pendulum length should not be a factor with the parts you need.
As a source for parts, you may try local clock repair shops.
Movements replaced with new often end up in a scrap pile in a back room.
New replacement parts may be available through Hermle dealers as well.
I would not recommend buying a "rebuilt" movement as a replacement because most of those available are short lived.
Most of those are shoddily repaired and will have short lifespans. Likely no better than the worn one you have.
At least, now you have options.
Best of luck,
Dick

 

[Ken Cheryba]

Ahah, he said!
261-030/31 is a Hermle movement with the pendulum length being 31 mm.
That movement is still made and available new from the normal movement suppliers.
Many used movements are available on eBay or other sites as parts and similar movements may be a source for those parts. The pendulum length should not be a factor with the parts you need.
As a source for parts, you may try local clock repair shops.
Movements replaced with new often end up in a scrap pile in a back room.
New replacement parts may be available through Hermle dealers as well.
I would not recommend buying a "rebuilt" movement as a replacement because most of those available are short lived.
Most of those are shoddily repaired and will have short lifespans. Likely no better than the worn one you have.
At least, now you have options.
Best of luck,
Dick

Thanks Dick. You are a Godsend. I will pursue parts or new movement options locally but there are not a lot of clock repair shops here in Calgary. Wondering if, considering the evident wear, I might be farther ahead with just a new movement

 

[Dick Feldman]

Hello Ken,
I suppose the value of the clock will have plenty to do with the allowable expenditure on repairs.
I googled "clock repair in Calgary" and found a few hits. One of those may have appropriate parts.
I am not familiar with duties, etc. but following are a couple of US suppliers of Hermle movements:
https://www.blackforestimports.com/ and

Clock Movements – Clock Parts

On Sale Now

www.clockworks.com

Here is one in Canada that may be able to supply parts and/or a new movement.

PERRIN- Canada's leading supplier for watch, clock and jewellery parts

PERRIN is a supplier of clock parts, clock movements, cuckoo clock parts, vintage watch parts, watch movements, watch batteries, watch straps, watch tools and jewellery findings.

perrinwatchparts.com

Best of luck,
Dick

 

[Ken Cheryba]

Hello Ken,
I suppose the value of the clock will have plenty to do with the allowable expenditure on repairs.
I googled "clock repair in Calgary" and found a few hits. One of those may have appropriate parts.
I am not familiar with duties, etc. but following are a couple of US suppliers of Hermle movements:
https://www.blackforestimports.com/ and

Clock Movements – Clock Parts

On Sale Now

www.clockworks.com

Here is one in Canada that may be able to supply parts and/or a new movement.

PERRIN- Canada's leading supplier for watch, clock and jewellery parts

PERRIN is a supplier of clock parts, clock movements, cuckoo clock parts, vintage watch parts, watch movements, watch batteries, watch straps, watch tools and jewellery findings.

perrinwatchparts.com

Best of luck,
Dick

Thanks Dick. Visited with Doug Sinclair here in Calgary, a long time past NAWCC member, and after contacting Perrin have decided to replace the entire movement which I will order. Thanks again to all of you for taking the time to assist me through this new and fun adventure. Ken

 

[Ken Cheryba]

Thanks Dick. Visited with Doug Sinclair here in Calgary, a long time past NAWCC member, and after contacting Perrin have decided to replace the entire movement which I will order. Thanks again to all of you for taking the time to assist me through this new and fun adventure. Ken

Hi guys. Thanks for all of your help. I just love the forum. Lot of fun and really educational. OK, so now I have the replacement movement. This is my first movement replacement and am wondering if there is a trick to easily positioning the mounting feet in the existing case screw holes or is it just trial and error? Thought I might trace the positions on a template before removing the feet from the old movement then then using that to correctly position the feet before installing the new movement in the case. Thoughts? Ken