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  1. John Hubby

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    To all Message Board Users:

    This will advise we have opened today a new “Want to Buy” forum, where you can post a request for any horologically related item that you would like to acquire, including clocks, watches, chronometers, tools, etc. This forum is located in the “What’s It Worth” main forum at the bottom of the forum index page HERE.

    Please note that the first 90 days will be a trial period, and we will be closely monitoring and evaluating the new forum during that time for possible changes, modifications, or enhancements, as well as to its continuation. Problems that may be encountered during this period will be promptly addressed and corrected as needed to improve your experience in its use. Should you have questions or comments, please post them to this thread where we will do our best to respond.

    All users may access this forum at any time, whether to post an item you want to acquire or to search through the existing requests to see if you may have something to offer that someone else is looking for.

    For Users who “Want to Buy”:

    Each user who wants to use this forum may create ONE thread where they may place individual posts containing images and descriptions of each item they want to buy. Please use the following guidelines for your thread and posts:
    • The thread you create by making your first post in the forum is your personal thread, to be used for all your postings. This first post in the thread should include personal information, an explanation of your areas of interest, or other introductions. If you delete this post it will also delete the thread, so please take care.
    • You may then post requests for multiple items; please request only one item in each post in your thread. Your post should include a complete description and may include images or other attachments to help describe what you are looking for. All posts will be shown in order of newest post first.
    • Only you will be able to post in your thread, and you cannot post in any other thread.
    • After making a “Want to Buy” post, your thread title may need to be edited to match what is now in your thread. To edit the title, click on “Thread Tools” in the menu bar at the top of your thread, then click on “Edit thread”. If not already selected in your title, please select a prefix that describes your item from the prefix list. Also include in the title a brief description of each item you post. After making the changes you need, both for prefixes and title descriptions, then click on “Save Changes”.
    • Each time you add or delete a post, your thread title should be edited if necessary to match what is in your thread.
    • You may edit any post you have made at any time. To edit a post click on the “Edit” box in the menu at lower left of your post. The text will pop up and you can add or remove text, images, etc. using the normal posting tools.
    • You can delete a post when you have acquired or no longer want that item. To delete a post, click in the small box at the upper left of that post and you will get a menu that includes the delete button. Click on that and follow the instructions to delete.
    • All discussions and transactions for each item must be conducted privately, e.g. by PM/Conversation, Email, social media, or other means.
    • Normal Message Board rules apply for all posts made in this forum.
    For Users who have Items to Offer:

    All threads in this forum are searchable. We are encouraging the use of prefixes to facilitate your searches; you may also use the Message Board search tool. Following are guidelines for your assistance:
    • At the top of the forum is a list that shows prefixes that describe particular types of items, e.g. (Clocks), (Watches), (Tools), etc. that are already posted in the forum. These tell you what is being requested in the forum and also show the number of threads that contain at least one of each category.
    • Click on the prefix of your choice, and it will sort the forum threads to create a listing of only the threads in the forum that have items in that category. You can then easily check the titles to see what may be of interest, and open any of them to look at individual posts. Should you see something requested that you may be interested to offer, you can then click on the OP’s avatar and send that user a PM/Conversation to start communicating with the OP.
    • As noted earlier, all discussions and transactions for each item must be conducted privately, e.g. by PM/Conversation, Email, social media, or other means.
    • Should you wish to look at a different prefix, click on the “Back” button of your browser to bring up the opening page of the forum. Then click on the next prefix you want to explore.
    • You can also search for specific items such as “Waltham Riverside” by using the Message Board search tool. Click on the magnifying glass icon at the top right of your page, add your search criteria in the space at the top of the dialog box and click on “Search Forum”.
    Once again, should you have problems or questions about using the forum and making your posts, please post your questions in this thread.
     
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  2. Robert Gary

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    #2 Robert Gary, Apr 11, 2018
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    Sorry. I posted this in the wrong area in my ignorance. I think I have it correct now.

    But, John and Tom, why are your listings in bold blue and mine in black, non-bold?

    Robert
     
  3. John Hubby

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    Robert, thanks for posting! The threads that have not been read by you, or that have had something added since the last time you were in the forum, will be bold blue. The ones you have read will be regular black but only if the forum page is refreshed or you leave the forum and come back. If you read mine and Tom's, go back now and they should both be regular black unless one of us has posted something new.
     
  4. Robert Gary

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    Thank you, John. It is working as you describe.
     
  5. FDelGreco

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    Perhaps we need a prefix for "books."

    Thanks,
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  6. Tom McIntyre

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    prefix for Book, but no one is currently looking to buy one.

    If you click on the Thread Display Options below the forum list for organizing your view of the forum, the drop down list of prefixes will show you all the available ones.
     
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    Maybe I don't understand the rules. There are some books I'm looking for but don't I need a book prefix to guide people to my thread? You've got prefixes for other types of horological items.

    Frank
     
  8. Tom McIntyre

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    You had not created a thread when last I looked. When you create a thread you will see a field with the default prefix. You can delete that and replace it with a different one, or several different ones if you need to do so. Book is one of the available prefixes.

    Those listed at the top of the thread list are the ones that are currently in use and the count of their usage.
     
  9. FDelGreco

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    OK. Now I understand.
    Frank
     
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    There must be some way to delete inactive threads. Can the OP delete his or her Thread or how does that work?
    (Sorry if I've missed the obvious answer)
     
  11. Tom McIntyre

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    The OP has full control over the thread and the posts in it. I am not sure what you mean by an obsolete thread since the thread is the person. The things the person wants are the posts in the thread. All conversations and/or email discussions on the items are outside the forum. You should think of it as your personal billboard.

    If a thread gets deleted, the person cannot create another one so the ability to delete the thread is not included.

    The threads age the same way they do in the regular forums, so a thread with no new content will drop down to the bottom out of sight.
     
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    Thanks for adding this new section to the message board. It is kind of hidden
    at the bottom of the forum list page. I would recommend making it a sticky at the top of all forums so
    everyone sees it, then after it gets a lot of traffic it can be moved back to where it is now.
    Just an idea.


    Rob
     
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    Thanks Tom. By obsolete I guess I was trying to say a thread which has served it's purpose and the OP is no longer in the market. So perhaps "Closed" would be a better description? It seems to me that the ability to delete the thread would result in less useless clutter in the Forum.
     
  14. Tom McIntyre

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    Since no one may reply to the thread except the owner, there is no need to "close" it in the sense of no longer allowing posts to be made. The owner is free to delete all the posts in the thread except the first one. They are also free to edit the contents of any of the posts, including the first one. And, finally, they are able to edit the title of the thread to say something like "I am no longer buying anything."

    We have not deleted threads from any of the forums except for cause. i.e. never for convenience.There are currently 24,462 threads in Clocks General and 23,481 in American Pocket Watches. In both forums the oldest threads date to 2002.

    In the Want to Buy forum we are experimenting with stronger promotion of thread prefixes which may be used to filter the content to a more focused subject area. We are also doing that in some of the other forums. There is also the search facility that will allow you to only search the single forum if you happen to have something that is looking for a new home.
     
  15. Tom McIntyre

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    The current deployment is a limited time study to see what utility this service may have. If people find it useful I am confident it will continue. Just like the value forums, commerce is not really what we are about, although it is a useful adjunct for those actively collecting and restoring.
     
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    Is this forum only available to NAWCC members. I clicked a link, saying i dont have permission to see it. Thanks.
     
  18. Tom McIntyre

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    Anyone can post there, but only in your own thread. You should be able to create a thread by clicking on the new thread button at the upper right when viewing the forum home page.
     
  19. Dick C

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    Did you ever explore a variation of this forum; one in which the poster would like to sell some items where the transaction would be complete if/when the purchaser donated the funds to the Message Board?

    Seller would pay for the postage with no returns; thus, I would expect that only small items would be in these transactions given the cost of postage.

    Seller and Purchaser would work out the financial details...the Message board would send an email or start a conversation when the donation has been made. Message board should acknowledge the donation on behalf of the Seller and perhaps the Purchaser?

    Just thinking about a few of the strange parts floating among my meager collection that are not worth sending to any of the on-line auction houses where the fees might be more than the item.

    Small shipping costs to me, a potential Seller, would not bother me as long as they were a few dollars of more.
     
  20. John Hubby

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    Kevin, all users should be able to see what is in the forum, and also to contact the OP of any thread via the Conversation tool. Are you still getting a message that you don't have permission to see the forum or to open any of the threads to see what is wanted?
     
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    John,
    The last 2 people who I sent a PM to, with help, have not responded , Hamilton 21 Deck, and Elgin car clock
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    I noticed they are new first time posters and the Hamilton was moved from the Chronometer forum.

    Do you know if they ,or he, was told was is going on and why it was moved and a reply would be in the Conversations forum?

    Maybe a sticky at the top explaining that no reply's will show in the threads and they have to look at their Private Conversations to see who has responded, or something like that.
     
  22. Tom McIntyre

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    The person asking about Hamilton 22 had not posted anywhere else when last I looked and probably does not understand how the forums work. However, his post was not moved for him, he moved it himself and should have been able to read the header information while he was doing that. I sent him a PM to post his request in the Want to Buy forums when I deleted his thread in the Chronometer forum.

    Maybe we could revive one of the threads on the model 22 and entice his interest that way, so he can learn how the system works.
     
  23. Jim Haney

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    How can someone move their post from one forum to another? I first read it in the Chronometer forum and it disappeared and I saw it in the want to buy and send him a PC. I tried to move my post and can't see how to do it?

    These are 2 new cases when the OP doesn't understand how to check the PC and my suggestion was a sticky.
     
  24. Tom McIntyre

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    Jim, He must have re-entered the post. Users cannot move posts from one forum to another. I sent him a PM to alert him what I was doing and then deleted his post in the Chronometer Forum.

    Below is the current language in the header that explains how the forum works. The header is displayed on the Forum Home page and also at the top of the forum listing when the forum is opened.

    If you are trying to reach someone by PM and they do not seem to be aware, then you can try sending them an email. Alternatively, you could pick up on the subject that seems to interest them and start a new thread or revive an old one on that topic.

     
  25. Jim Haney

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    Tom,
    It is clear you don't want a sticky in the forum and you expect the new posters to read the fine print.

    I have already done my job by posting a Private Conservation to them with the info they need. I don't have the the time to send separate emails or to search threads for alike topics.

    The bottom line is they simply won't get the help they are asking for.
     
  26. Dick C

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    This one posted a telephone number: Post 2: https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/elgin-car-clock-wanted.151680/
     
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    I don't know why you consider the header "fine print." A sticky only shows its title and who would post it in that forum? You and I have posted about 100 times as many words as the person seeking Hamilton offers. BTW an email is almost exactly the same number of keystrokes as a PM/Conversation.
     
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    Thanks Steven, now the link works for me.

    But i have not found the forum yet.
     
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    I just found it.:)
     
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    Is this members only? It says I have insufficient privileges to post there (even though I am still a member).
     
  35. Tom McIntyre

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    It is not member only.

    In the instructions, it explains that each user may create one thread where they have control of edits and may post multiple replies but no one else can reply to another's thread. this is intended to move actual commercial discussions to either email or conversations.

    It is important that prefixes be used so that potential sellers may organize the display to show things they may have for sale among the wants.
     
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    Please ignore--- I got it.
     
  37. Tom McIntyre

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    By the way your membership status would show except that you registered with two different emails with the membership system and the Message Board. As you know your membership is valid through the end of March.
     
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