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Waltham Watch and case Identification

Midse

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Help required identifying this Waltham watch and case. I believe the mechanism serial number dates as a 1908 14k 17 jewel 16s ( 88.4g) - Possibly a 1918 Canadian Railway version ?
Unable to identify the 14k case??
It is in good condition and works perfectly.

Estimated value?



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Midse

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Help required identifying this Waltham watch and case. I believe the mechanism serial number dates as a 1908 14k 17 jewel 16s ( 88.4g) - Possibly a 1918 Canadian Railway version ?
Unable to identify the 14k case??
It is in good condition and works perfectly.

Estimated value?



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musicguy

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Welcome to the NAWCC forum

One post on our forum per watch is fine I merged your same posts together
please use this thread thanks.


Rob
 

topspin

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According to the database, this is what you have here. It's a model 1908 from approximately 1918.


I don't see anything that shouts Canadian railway at me.
 

Midse

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According to the database, this is what you have here. It's a model 1908 from approximately 1918.


I don't see anything that shouts Canadian railway at me.
Waltham Grey Book
i miss read the serial numbers, the previous run were Canadian Railway.
I'm still trying to Identify the case model, It appears to be A waltham but model name/number is unknown.

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Jerry Treiman

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Your case is 14K solid gold and was made by the American Watch Case Co. located in Toronto, Canada. They made very fine, often heavy, gold cases.
(There was another American Watch Case Co. in New York and I am not aware that any connection between the two has been established).
 

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The value of the watch is mostly tied up in the gold in the case. While it is a very clean watch overall, the movement is fairly common and is somewhere near the middle of the road for Waltham's wares.

The watch reminds me of a style, dial-wise and case-wise, that would have been an export to Britain. The case in particular, with the "buckle-shield" cartouche calls that out to me. And the dial is very much in the style of Waltham's exports to Britain. I do not know how common it was to use the Canadian AWCCo's cases for such watches.

Based on the gold present in the case, mixed with Engle, Gilbert, and Shugart's opinion on case prices in 2013 (Based on similar gold prices as today.), I'd guess you'd probably be looking at around $1,200-1,500 for the watch. The case does not have the look of one of AWCCo's heavier cases to me. If the "88" gram weight is for the total weight of this watch, the case would be around 1/2 the total weight, FWIW.

It is possible that you'd get more from a collector who wanted to upgrade the case for their export Maximus grade, which was made with the same plate layout (Model 1899/1908) as yours. I must also say that melting the case would be a shame, as it is a very crisp quality gold case. The engine turning is very fresh and the cartouche is un-engraved. These crisp gold cases get harder and harder to come by. The hands of nineteenth and twentieth century men (American watchmaking's heyday.) only made so many. Good luck.
 

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