Waltham traveller 11751871

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  1. Britannicus

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    #1 Britannicus, May 31, 2018
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    I just picked up a watch movement - Waltham Traveller 11751871. According to the pocket watch database it shoudl be 7j, but as you can see in my picture, it's clearly more than that (assume 15j but have not taken it apart yet).

    I've uploaded the amendment to the PWDB but wondered if it's common to be in error - I note some abrasion marks around the pivots - could these be from replacement jewels being rubbed in to replace straight metal bearings ?
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    I think it has been up-jeweled. It may have started out as a 7 jewel and then a watchmaker added more jewels. I remember seeing many Travveler movements when I lived in the UK. Many in 9k ALD (Dennison) cases.
     
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    Hmm - wondered about that, is it a common thing for 7j watches to be "up-jeweled" - not seeing a lot of benefit unless either original bearings are worn, or just to be able to say 15j
     
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    That must have been some clever jeweller to be able to pull that off with accuracy assuming that it is indeed 'up jewelled'.

    BTW, I'm an ex Derby resident myself......Duffield Road......small world.

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    The jewels look like they have brass setting and would have been pushed in with a stake or something similar.

    I don't think the scuff marks on the pate have any tie in with the jewels?

    What does the dial plate look like?
     
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    It actually does not take much as long as you have the ability to properly drill out the old holes. The size will be based on your jeweling set. First though you make sure you have the right pivot hole size jewels. Once drilled you can use the jeweling set to put the jewels in.

    My father in law has turned down jewels in settings to fit a watch that had a damaged jewel. He uses his lathe and the jewel chucks.

    So difficult....only if you are not a watchmaker or don't have the skill and tools.
     
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    I see what you mean about the brass settings. The one looks to be rough around the edge.
     
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