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Waltham Chronometer Clock

Haybayler

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I recently bought this and Waltham miniature clock. It has a serial # 18772371. The mechanism is an 8 day watch. Search comes back to made date of1912 ,size 16, model 1908. I have searched through many photos of this series. I haven't seen any in this type of clock. the dial arrangement is different, also. The large size, 1 7/8 inches, seem similar to the Chronograph, used on ships and automobiles. The old clock needs a lot of restorative work (wish me luck). I had it running (mostly) the first day.
My first question is what is the small dial with the red dot? Possibly an alarm?

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Hi,
What you have is a miniature banjo produced by Waltham Watch Co and the movement is a 8 day 37 size movement I suspect and not a 16 size movement. The small dial with the red indicator in the hole is a wind indicator function. On the 7th to 8th day of running the red dot will appear in the hole or window indicating it is time to rewind.
These movements were used in travel, miniature shelf/mantle, wall, car, ships/boats and military vehicle/aircraft clocks. They vary in jewel range and if you post a picture of the movement it’ll be easier to determine.
Cheers,
James
 

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Hi,
What you have is a miniature banjo produced by Waltham Watch Co and the movement is a 8 day 37 size movement I suspect and not a 16 size movement. The small dial with the red indicator in the hole is a wind indicator function. On the 7th to 8th day of running the red dot will appear in the hole or window indicating it is time to rewind.
These movements were used in travel, miniature shelf/mantle, wall, car, ships/boats and military vehicle/aircraft clocks. They vary in jewel range and if you post a picture of the movement it’ll be easier to determine.
Cheers,
James
Thank you for your response. I appreciate the information that you provided. I am uploading a picture of the movement. It is in very good shape. as I mentioned, it is about 1.75 inches wide.
CORRECTION: The movement is 2.75"
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I did a presentation on the myriad uses of the Waltham 37 size. There was also an earlier article that was similar and focussed more on the Boudoir painted dial clocks.
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I recently bought this and Waltham miniature clock. It has a serial # 18772371. The mechanism is an 8 day watch. Search comes back to made date of1912 ,size 16, model 1908. I have searched through many photos of this series. I haven't seen any in this type of clock. the dial arrangement is different, also. The large size, 1 7/8 inches, seem similar to the Chronograph, used on ships and automobiles. The old clock needs a lot of restorative work (wish me luck). I had it running (mostly) the first day.
My first question is what is the small dial with the red dot? Possibly an alarm?

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Interesting.

Waltham miniature banjos made in approximately the 1st 1/4 of the 20th century or so were fine products.

The quality of the cases is just wonderful. The glasses were hand painted. Here are 2 examples that I currently own:

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I suspect that your Waltham miniature banjo was home made using an available Waltham movement. It looks like someone used a photographic post card for the lower "tablet". Quite crude but now without its charms. Beyond the movement, I doubt very much that it is a Waltham product.

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Chris Carey's teardown of the 37S movement is also included as a serties of stills. The full video may be available on the Chapter 8 web site.

Foster Campos made a small number of the miniature banjos using Waltham 37 size movement that Pat Caruso modified for front winding. I do not own one, but they looked to me to be better than the Waltham pieces made the same way.
 

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Chris Carey's teardown of the 37S movement is also included as a serties of stills. The full video may be available on the Chapter 8 web site.

Foster Campos made a small number of the miniature banjos using Waltham 37 size movement that Pat Caruso modified for front winding. I do not own one, but they looked to me to be better than the Waltham pieces made the same way.
Thanks, I will research that. You guys on this forum are Awesome.
 

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