Waltham 23 jewel model 1908 with wind indicator

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    20191110_134955[1].jpg Hello all,
    I have a 23 jewel Waltham vanguard model 1908 with wind indicator. The wind indicator does not work but it looks like all the parts are there. My Waltham parts book only shows part numbers and name of the part so i don't know what part is what. looking at the watch fully unwound it looks like the gear that moves the indicator hand is in the wrong position ( I believe it should be turned to the opposite of what it shows in my picture ) because when i wind the watch that gear in pic 6 ( top of the page)turns counter clockwise and it is already at the end of the line. I don't know how to remove and reposition the gear without damage to it.
    All replies are greatly appreciated...
    I hope this makes sense it took me long enough to put together!
    THANK YOU 20191110_143757[1].jpg 20191110_143823[1].jpg 20191110_143831[1].jpg 20191110_143840[1].jpg 20191110_143920[1].jpg
     
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    Here is an update
    I think i figured it out, not sure but I removed the winding assembly and under it their is a screw that when loosened it allowed the gear I discussed to rotate freely. I moved it to the opposite as in the picture and it allowed the gear to move in sequence with the amount of winds it took the mainspring to be fully wound and end at approximately 1 or 2 mm from the end of the gear.
    I hope that's the problem the watch is running and waiting to see if their is any indication of mainspring let down.
     
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    Hello all,
    I have a 23 jewel Waltham vanguard model 1908 with wind indicator. The wind indicator does not work but it looks like all the parts are there. My Waltham parts book only shows part numbers and name of the part so i don't know what part is what. looking at the watch fully unwound it looks like the gear that moves the indicator hand is in the wrong position ( I believe it should be turned to the opposite of what it shows in my picture ) because when i wind the watch that gear in pic 6 ( top of the page)turns counter clockwise and it is already at the end of the line. I don't know how to remove and reposition the gear without damage to it.
    All replies are greatly appreciated...
    I hope this makes sense it took me long enough to put together!
    THANK 474426-effc11b5013cd6cb5e27443ab025b7e7.jpg YOU 474427-4b78e36831ced72a95da6b080cf0bab2.jpg 474429-77c8a643da770ac01a8a036b6d8ebeb3.jpg 474431-89fa0ec83bd6213570350b933062ae25.jpg 474432-ab62db4760e9af135503b69e4130dd09.jpg 474433-9fed7f2479d7676a73f6e45e684705a2.jpg

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    #4 ralph1, Nov 11, 2019
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    First update update
    I forgot the serial #18074579
    I think i figured it out, not sure but I removed the winding assembly and under it their is a screw that when loosened it allowed the gear I discussed to rotate freely. I moved it to the opposite as in the picture and it allowed the gear to move in sequence with the amount of winds it took the mainspring to be fully wound and end at approximately 1 or 2 mm from the end of the gear.
    I hope that's the problem the watch is running and waiting to see if their is any indication of mainspring let down.

    Second update

    I let the watch run all night but the indicator hand did not move, I think it's due to the gears next to the next to the main spring barrel. Does anyone know the part numbers to the 2 gear that are there? It looks like there are 2 gear on top of each other guessing one to drive wind up and one for let down. I'm not sure.
     
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    ralph1, here are pictures of the 1948 Waltham catalog with the parts, numbers and names of the parts, hope this helps.

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    Thank you Richie, I have that also but I have I was wondering if their is an layout somewhere showing which parts go where somewhere?
     

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