waltham 1883

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  1. butlercreek

    butlercreek Registered User
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    what were the 18 and 19th jewel for on the 19 jewel 1883 model barrel or caps maybe? does anyone have a picture of one?
     
  2. butlercreek

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    wow.... are these that rare?
     
  3. Paul Regan

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    Yes, they are rare to the extent that Waltham did not make a 19J production Model '83. There are probably some employee '83s out there that were up-jeweled.
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  4. richiec

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    The price guide shows the 1883 Crescent St as a one start rarity and appears to be the only 19 jewel 1883
     
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    A photo of the movement would be useful and interesting. A quick search of past threads revealed that sometimes the higher grades of model 1883 and the 1892 model get confused.
    According to the lookup...
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    ...there were 3 small runs of 1883 21J recorded, and none of 19J. But that still leaves an unknown number of "employee specials", and an unknown number of tamperings from the past 130 years or so.
     
  6. Paul Regan

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    I guess we will have to wait till our resident '83 expert Steve Mercer checks in.
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    Also, get photos of both the pillar plate and gear train along with the serial number.
     
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    made by Patek Phillip in their Japanese plant:D
     
  9. Tom McIntyre

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    This is one of the employee specials. It is 20J I believe with some jewel improvements in quality.
    dial.jpg movement.jpg movement2.jpg mvtclose.jpg
     
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  10. Keith R...

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    Love the dial Tom. Life has me down to one lowly 15J. It's claim to fame
    is it came out of the UK with a Coat of Arms on the back.

    Keith R...

    103_9690 (800x600).jpg 103_9696 (800x600).jpg 103_9726 (800x600).jpg
     
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  11. Tom McIntyre

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    That's a neat watch. There are not many keywind 1883 models and I think the great bulk of them went to the UK. It is a plus that it is Appleton Tracy grade.
     
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  12. Keith R...

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    Found the old file Tom, this is right after Rob serviced it, so I saved it at 1600x1200.

    I might can bang the camera against the wall and get it to go up. Just say so. See
    if this is a grown-up picture, as Haney would call it.:)

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  13. Jim Haney

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    Keith,
    Whatever you did it worked,now your pic's will enlarge, so leave it alone at that setting and as Tom said the MB will do the work for you providing you start off with a regular sized image.o_O:eek::D
     
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