Vienna Regulator Enamel Face.

Kieran McCarthy

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I was bequeathed a Vienna Regulator style clock from a late aunt recently which had been in her family for 60+ years. The German movement, circa 1920, is of quite a high quality, though abused over time with wood, wire, and nails used to hold it together. I have managed to do quite a good job on refurbishing it, now I need to look at the face. As per photograph, you can see that the enamel (or perhaps porcelain, I don't know which), has also been abused. Living in a small backwater like Ireland with just a handful of folk interested in Horology, I have failed to find either a repairer or a replacement. I have also trawled the eBay sites of the UK next door without success. Can anyone advise me of where I might either source a replacement for that particular vintage or someone who specialises in quality repairs. The outside diameter is 7.25 inches, the inner ring 3.75 inches. The distance between the centers of the two winding holes is 2.125 inches and from the center hole to the winding hole 1.125 inches.
Thank you. Regards, Kieran.

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Cousins might be able to help. See if any of these would work for you. There are repair people in the US that could do the job for you if you're willing to ship.
 
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Kieran McCarthy

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Cousins might be able to help. See if any of these would work for you. There are repair people in the US that could do the job for you if you're willing to ship.
Thanks Shutterbug, I can always depend on you for a response. I have already tried Cousins without success, also Meadows & Passmore. My son is fluent in German and I have asked him to trawl through some of German/Austrian eBay equivalents. I'm quite prepared to wait so will continue to check sites on this side of the pond. I have identified two "ceramic restorers" here in Ireland and once Covid travel restrictions ease, (we can only travel 5 km from home), I will visit with them as I want to be sure that they can deliver on quality before committing.
I actually do not know what the finish is, whether it is enamel, ceramic, porcelain or what. To your knowledge, what material was typically used on these faces ?
Best Regards, Kieran.
 

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Most are porcelain, I think.
 

Mike Phelan

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This might just be the difference in naming from UK to USA ;)
I'd call it enamel, i.e white glass as in most German and French clock dials, whereas porcelain here is fused china clay (kaolin).
 
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Fitzclan

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Mike, your distinctions are the same as ours here in the US.
Porcelain, although there different grades, some more rustic, others finer depending on the origin of the clay, are just that; basically glazed clay that is fired in a kiln whereas enamel is an opaque glass that is baked onto a metallic or ceramic substrate.
While it would certainly be possible to create a porcelain dial, that would not be the norm. Kieran’s dial, like most seems to be baked onto metal.
 

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But that is a beautiful dial. How does someone repair something like that?

M Kinsler
Beats the heck out of me Mark. That’d be a treat to see!
 

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