Very old tall case clock INFO need

[TEACLOCKS]

Never seen a tall case clock with a chime tube ?
I hope the name will help with date & where from ?
Do you think it needs 8lb weights ?
I don't know what that thing is hanging from the cord is ?
The pendulum is missing ?
I have not been to the customers house where the clock is at yet ?
Any help would be appreciated ?
Thank you Very much
Lloyd

 

[novicetimekeeper]

It's a thirty hour clock with dummy winding arbours to look like an 8 day. It has a penny moon, which is a desirable feature, and has been converted to strike a tube, which is a less desirable feature.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

Salterforth is a village near Pendle in Lancashire, though it was in Yorkshire until 1974. I can't find a clockmaker called King there.

 

[TEACLOCKS]

The round thing on the pulley, Do you think it is a weight ??
Do you think 1830s ??
Thank you for everything else.

 

[Dick C]

The round thing on the pulley, Do you think it is a weight ??
Do you think 1830s ??
Thank you for everything else.

Could be the pendulum bob. A portion of the stick appears to be taped to the door.

 

[DeanT]

The round thing on the pulley, Do you think it is a weight ??
Do you think 1830s ??
Thank you for everything else.

I'm thinking 1770's or 1780's. Hands aren't original IMO.

 

[jmclaugh]

It should run fine on an 8lb weight, they are typically between 6-9lb on 30 hour clocks and made of lead. You ought to be able to find one to replace that makeshift round weight and a stand and bell to replace that incongruous tube though the hammer will need to be returned to its original position assuming the customer is agreeable to returning it to how it should be. I agree with Dean about the brass hands, again these could be replaced. There is a John King listed in Salterforth 1765.

 

[DeanT]

There is a John King listed in Salterforth 1765.

Thanks. That seems consistent with the style of the dial.

 

[TEACLOCKS]

30 hr ?
So maybe 8lbs per side ??
Or less ?

 

[novicetimekeeper]

30 hr ?
So maybe 8lbs per side ??
Or less ?

It's a 30 hour, both trains driven by the same weight on a huygens' system

 

[TEACLOCKS]

Sorry
I just went to the customers house, Got it my mind what I was looking At in the pictures.
It needs cleaning real bad.
I see that it is the Huygens system.
I need to make or find a pendulum stick & bob. & a counter weight.
How about the wood, any ideas what kind ?

 

[DeanT]

The dial appears associated to the movement looking at the bottom right hand dial post.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

The dial appears associated to the movement looking at the bottom right hand dial post.

Well spotted, had not noticed that, does it even have dial feet on the other side? Both this side are outside the movement

 

[Jmeechie]

That weight looks like someone poured lead into a coffee can to make a weight!
Does the movement appear to be 1795 ish or newer? It appears the tabs are an addition to hold the dial?
Cheers,
James

 

[TEACLOCKS]

It needs to be cleaned & what ever.
I want to replace the cord, how do you splice it together?

 

[TEACLOCKS]

I want to replace the cord, how do you splice it together ?

 

[Wayne A]

I want to replace the cord, how do you splice it together ?

Seen this done years ago by heavy lift riggers, looked a bit complicated but those guys had allot of down time at the plant. Looks interesting and from a just a bit or searching seems like you need to do a "long splice" so the rope diameter remains the same

Splicing

 

[Wayne A]

Looking back at the first post's second picture you can see the rope has what appears to be a "long splice" in it by where the fuzzy ends of the rope are located.

 

[brian fisher]

judging by pic 2 and 3, the wood species is oak

 

[TEACLOCKS]

Thank you Brian
I am not a wood guy at all.
I can glue it nicely.
But don't ask me what kind it is.