Unusual Oversized Beehive Clock Fusee Movement Jerome

[roman16]

Hi all. Not a new addition but an old addition that I'm getting reacquainted with and would like some input. Interesting oversized beehive clock with an big 8 day Jerome attached to the movement fusee works. Larger than normal case measures about 19.5 inches high. Interesting concave molding on the base. Inside of case has 4 reinforcing glue blocks attached to the inside base and case sides that look organic and original. Label is illegible. I found a picture of the movement in Ken Robert's Joseph Ives book and it is identified as a Jerome movement but it is unsigned. Unfortunately dial is replaced but looks descent. Anyone familiar with this clock model? I've seen more than one detached 8 day fusee movement beehives but first and last one I've ever seen with this design. The movement pictured in Roberts book came out of a wall clock and it is not pictured. Any input would be much appreciated

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Hi all. Not a new addition but an old addition that I'm getting reacquainted with and would like some input. Interesting oversized beehive clock with an big 8 day Jerome attached to the movement fusee works. Larger than normal case measures about 19.5 inches high. Interesting concave molding on the base. Inside of case has 4 reinforcing glue blocks attached to the inside base and case sides that look organic and original. Label is illegible. I found a picture of the movement in Ken Robert's Joseph Ives book and it is identified as a Jerome movement but it is unsigned. Unfortunately dial is replaced but looks descent. Anyone familiar with this clock model? I've seen more than one detached 8 day fusee movement beehives but first and last one I've ever seen with this design. The movement pictured in Roberts book came out of a wall clock and it is not pictured. Any input would be much appreciated

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That is an interest clock. They and related clocks have been covered extensively on the Forums. See these postings on the American Fusee Clock thread:

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

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Scroll to posting # 80

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The beehives in particular have been covered in this NAWCC Bulletin:

296_355.pdf (nawcc.org)

Briefly, Jerome made a rather English looking integral fusee movement in the mid-19th Century. These were installed in wall clocks with ripple molding that resembled English dial clocks. Examples of these and their movements may be seen on the American fusee thread as well.

Some 20 or so years later a SIMILAR but NOT IDENTICAL form of movement was revived by a one of his successor firms and placed in 3 styles of shelf clocks.

Here are some pix of examples of the case styles that I own:




It is unclear why this was done at that late date. Not many were made.

The movements in these clocks were not signed. The first 2 had a "pinched" escapement bridge, the last a tapered one. The earlier form of these movements had plates that extended to fully enclose the fusees, the later ones did not. The former were mounted to a seat board. The latter were mounted in the case using blocks.

There were 3 different types of labels used. The beehive had a small paper label mounted to the back of the glass. It is missing in mine but there are clear traces of it on the back of the glass. Here is a photocopy of what it looked like:



The peaked top shelf model has a full backboard label, the last one, called the Oxus, has a small printed label mounted to the lower outer back board.

I suspect the tablet on your clock is a replacement and not really in the correct style.

Still, a rather scarce and very collectible clock.

RM

 

[roman16]

That is an interest clock. They and related clocks have been covered extensively on the Forums. See these postings on the American Fusee Clock thread:

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scoll down to posting # 40

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting # 80

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting # 193

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting #219

The beehives in particular have been covered in this NAWCC Bulletin:

296_355.pdf (nawcc.org)

Briefly, Jerome made a rather English looking integral fusee movement in the mid-19th Century. These were installed in wall clocks with ripple molding that resembled English dial clocks. Examples of these and their movements may be seen on the American fusee thread as well.

Some 20 or so years later a SIMILAR but NOT IDENTICAL form of movement was revived by a one of his successor firms and placed in 3 styles of shelf clocks.

Here are some pix of examples of the case styles that I own:

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It is unclear why this was done at that late date. Not many were made.

The movements in these clocks were not signed. The first 2 had a "pinched" escapement bridge, the last a tapered one. The earlier form of these movements had plates that extended to fully enclose the fusees, the later ones did not. The former were mounted to a seat board. The latter were mounted in the case using blocks.

There were 3 different types of labels used. The beehive had a small paper label mounted to the back of the glass. It is missing in mine but there are clear traces of it on the back of the glass. Here is a photocopy of what it looked like:

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The peaked top shelf model has a full backboard label, the last one, called the Oxus, has a small printed label mounted to the lower outer back board.

I suspect the tablet on your clock is a replacement and not really in the correct style.

Still, a rather scarce and very collectible clock.

RM

Thanks for the information. Amazing that you own 3 different style clocks with that movement. I would never expect this movement to be in those later style cases. Does your Beehive have those blue blocks inside the case like the ones in mine? I expect you are correct in your
lower glass opinion since the clock is later than I thought. The education is much appreciated. Thanks

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Thanks for the information. Amazing that you own 3 different style clocks with that movement. I would never expect this movement to be in those later style cases. Does your Beehive have those blue blocks inside the case like the ones in mine? I expect you are correct in your
lower glass opinion since the clock is later than I thought. The education is much appreciated. Thanks

Just checked.

My case has the same glue blocks as yours. A bit of an unusual construction detail?

I will also add that the inner back board of mine is lined with a plain brown paper. That is true of the other example included in the linked to Bulletin article. Looking @ the pix you provided, it appears that your clock has some remnants of the same.

I should add that one of the examples in that article, the one owned by Jack Mills, is the very clock that I own. I bought it from him @ the Eastern States Regional in Syracuse many years ago.

And if you scroll down to pages 363-4, you will see a report of a rather funky triple fusee steeple I own. Great glass.

Again, you have a scarce clock that does not turn up very often. Yours is the first that I know of turning up in years.

RM

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

One more source of information.

See my all-time favorite Bulletin Supplement, Supplement # 9:

Bulletin Supplements - National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors, Inc. (nawcc.org)

This is a reference for anyone who collects American clocks.

Scroll to page 44. You will see illustrated an example of the Oxus, just like mine with an alarm.

Dr. Shaffer wondered if a stash of the old Jerome integral fusee time and strike movements had been found and put into later cases.

No. The movement in the Oxus and the other clocks discussed in the present thread are similar but as pointed out, different from the earlier forms.

There was something in the Bulletin Answer Box not too long ago where the person responding to an inquiry confused one of these later movements for an earlier one. By the way, when pointed out with an email to the editor, greeted with a response of deafening silence.

RM

 

[roman16]

Hi RM. Appreciate the information. Always something new to learn. Now I'm going to be on the look out for those other models with the same movement. Thank you.

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Hi RM. Appreciate the information. Always something new to learn. Now I'm going to be on the look out for those other models with the same movement. Thank you.

My pleasure.

Thanks for sharing an interesting and scarce American clock.

If you find the others, please post them here!

RM

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

That is an interest clock. They and related clocks have been covered extensively on the Forums. See these postings on the American Fusee Clock thread:

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scoll down to posting # 40

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting # 80

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting # 193

Post your favorite American fusee clock. | NAWCC Forums

Scroll to posting #219

The beehives in particular have been covered in this NAWCC Bulletin:

296_355.pdf (nawcc.org)

Briefly, Jerome made a rather English looking integral fusee movement in the mid-19th Century. These were installed in wall clocks with ripple molding that resembled English dial clocks. Examples of these and their movements may be seen on the American fusee thread as well.

Some 20 or so years later a SIMILAR but NOT IDENTICAL form of movement was revived by a one of his successor firms and placed in 3 styles of shelf clocks.

Here are some pix of examples of the case styles that I own:

View attachment 755993 View attachment 755994 View attachment 755995 View attachment 755996
View attachment 755997 View attachment 755998

It is unclear why this was done at that late date. Not many were made.

The movements in these clocks were not signed. The first 2 had a "pinched" escapement bridge, the last a tapered one. The earlier form of these movements had plates that extended to fully enclose the fusees, the later ones did not. The former were mounted to a seat board. The latter were mounted in the case using blocks.

There were 3 different types of labels used. The beehive had a small paper label mounted to the back of the glass. It is missing in mine but there are clear traces of it on the back of the glass. Here is a photocopy of what it looked like:

View attachment 756000

The peaked top shelf model has a full backboard label, the last one, called the Oxus, has a small printed label mounted to the lower outer back board.

I suspect the tablet on your clock is a replacement and not really in the correct style.

Still, a rather scarce and very collectible clock.

RM

I made a boo-boo that no one commented upon.

Only the movement in the beehive has a movement with a pinched escape bridge. Both of the other two have a tapered one!

Haven't looked at them in a long time.

My bad!!

RM