Unmarked Vienna wall clock, Endler? any ideas on maker?

Darrmann39

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I got this beautiful Vienna clock. Any ideas on the maker. I first thought Endler but am now learning there were very very similar clocks made by a variety of different makers. Even well known makers selling to wholesalers and finishers.

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am now learning there were very very similar clocks made by a variety of different makers. Even well known makers selling to wholesalers and finishers.
If by clocks you mean cases and dials and pendulums, you are correct - most movement makers did not make these items but contracted them to unknown firms who also had contracts to make the cases and dials and pendulums to other movement makers.

Most people consider the items most visible to the eye - the cases, the dials, the pendulums - as the "clock", but these items are actually secondary to the clock, as the movement is the heart of any clock.

Unfortunately, I cannot identify your unmarked movement, but others may be able to do so.

Regards.
 
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BTW, I agree with you - the clock (the case and dial and pendulum and weights :)) is beautiful!

The movement appears to be a quality German movement.

Congrats!

Regards.
 

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I'll assume it's Germania.
Unfortunately, I don't have such early movements in my database, but the serial number font is very similar.

BR, Tatyana

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A nice VR with unusual hands I don't recall seeing on one of these before.
 
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Sorry I'm a rookie with clock abbreviations. I'm assuming V for Vienna can you clarify the R in VR
No need to be sorry, it's my and others' abbreviation for a Vienna Regulator, a weight not spring driven clock.
 
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Tatyana

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I'm new to clock collecting so am pretty amazed at what you learn from fonts.
Thanks
You have submitted many good pics of your clock, but some items were not included in this portfolio.
For more accurate identification, please take photos of these elements:

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Thank you in Advance!
 

Darrmann39

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You have submitted many good pics of your clock, but some items were not included in this portfolio.
For more accurate identification, please take photos of these elements:

View attachment 626454 View attachment 626455

Thank you in Advance!
so the funny thing is it was basically one of my first clocks and me being a carpenter, and a person who has always taken stuff apart thought i could with this movement. The weight strings were wrapped around the back and so i thought of I'll just loosen the screws holding plates together and thus creating space to unwind stuck wires.
thus popping all the wheels loose lol.
in all my struggles to put together i broke the pivots on escape arbor. But i did get it back together besides that. An amazing feat for never touching one.
Then i took it to clock repairman and he's having an arbor made.
so after all that i don't have it right now to take pics. Hopefully have it back in about a month.
on a good note i probably could take it apart now so i leaned but it was a costly mistake
You have submitted many good pics of your clock, but some items were not included in this portfolio.
For more accurate identification, please take photos of these elements:

View attachment 626454 View attachment 626455

Thank you
 

jmclaugh

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The pivots on these movements are small and fine so don't take to being handled other than carefully.

Don't forget to post the requested extra pics.
 

Darrmann39

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The pivots on these movements are small and fine so don't take to being handled other than carefully.

Don't forget to post the requested extra pics.
Now you tell me. Just kidding. Yea seems to me comparing them to some other ones I've now worked on they are like you said very fine almost too small to see with your eye.
I will post the pics as soon as i get it back
 

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Also is Germania an actual maker or in reference to time and region

Germania is the name of the maker. Regulatorfabrik Germania was founded in 1871 in Freiburg/Schlesien (now Swiebodzice in Poland). In 1899 the company combined with Gustav Becker.

JTD
 
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