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Trying to identify the movement and date

Bill Manders

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I have a Telix 21J pocket watch and am trying to identify the movement. There is no serial number on it. It is marked 21J adj. and i see a # 429N.
The only thing I have found anywhere on this, is it possibly could be a Unita 429N movement. Unfortunately I am not wise enough to take the watch apart to see if there is anything on the underside.
Could this be a Unita movement ?
Thanks for any help.
 

Cary Hurt

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Perby,

It's not the well known Unitas 6497. It does bear some similarities to the 83 series, but that's a much older movement, and I don't know how long they stayed in production. It also appears similar to the ETA 953 series.

Your movement is a more modern design, with 21 jewels, and what appears to be a shock-protected balance. It also appears to be a higher grade model, with swan-neck regulator. What is the width of the movement?

The Telix brand was registered by Jacob Tennenbaum of Bienne, Switzerland in 1947. I'd say your watch dates to the mid-'50s or later.

Regards,

Cary Hurt
 

Bill Manders

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Thanks Cary,
I appreciate the info
The movement is 40mm, and like I said there is no numbers or other identifiers on the movement, with the exception of that 429N under a pivot wheel.
Thanks again
Bill
 

Bill Manders

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Cary said:
Perby,

It's not the well known Unitas 6497. It does bear some similarities to the 83 series, but that's a much older movement, and I don't know how long they stayed in production. It also appears similar to the ETA 953 series.

Your movement is a more modern design, with 21 jewels, and what appears to be a shock-protected balance. It also appears to be a higher grade model, with swan-neck regulator. What is the width of the movement?

The Telix brand was registered by Jacob Tennenbaum of Bienne, Switzerland in 1947. I'd say your watch dates to the mid-'50s or later.

Regards,

Cary Hurt
 

Bill Manders

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Thanks for the info Cary.
I was just interested in trying to identify the movement, and the approx. age, and you have answered both of the questions.
The movement is 40mm.
Thanks again,
Bill
 

Bill Manders

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Cary,
Sorry for taking so long to respond, but I was called away to work out of town.
The measurement of the movement is approx. 40mm, if that helps,
Thanks for your input.
Bill
 

Bill Manders

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Hi again guys,
I am putting on a few extra and hopefully clearer pics.
Thanks for all the info to this date, really helpful, as i really am a neophite just starting to make a collection for myself, and want to know what I have.
Thanks again to all,
Bill
 

Bill Manders

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Thanks Cary,
I have taken a few more pics, hopefully clearer than the last ones. Really appreciate the info so far, as I am really a neophite, just starting to amass a collection of watches.
Again all thanks for the info so far,
Bill
 

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