Tremont serial # list (and movement photos)

[geo.ulrich]

I have started a new post of serial #'s of Tremont's, Melrose and English Tremont's please feel free to add any numbers you might have Thanks George 1505,2434,2738,3027,3202,3947,4267,4688,4773,4990,5214 wash.st,5228 wash.st,5890,6308,6791,7389,7646,8466,9198,9339,9607,9610,9829,9940,12572,31694 Melrose,4859,5209,8864,11240 wash.st.,32386 Melrose, 31291 Melrose,33035 Melrose,40149 3/4 plate wash.st,

 

[Tom Huber]

I have Tremont Watch Co sn # 8152

Tom

 

[Keith R...]

Tremont #8399, Melrose #32386.

I'm not sure how sustainable this is. Melrose numbers are above 30,000, but
not sure where Washington St. numbers range.

Keith R...

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Since Washington St appears on both full plate and 3/4 plate they will, of necessity, be in two different ranges or possibly more. They may also be whimsical and just scattered throughout. That is why we need to make a list of them.

One nice thing about serial numbers is that a search for just the number will not turn up a huge number of results.

Since much of the history of Tremont/Melrose/English Watch Co is the record of disrupted operations, I would not presume that the serial numbers sequence had any particular meaning except in the larger blocks. i.e. 30,055 is very likely to be early and those over 32,000 are likely to be late but that might be as much as can be known.

It would be worthwhile to try to determine from the examples that appear to be originally cased, the likely time of manufacture of the case. The English Watch Co. examples help a lot because of the English hallmarks.

This is the best I could come up with for the webinar.


Here are the three Melrose that I have. I am pretty sure 30045 was made in the U.S. but am not so certain on the other two. They may have been re-imported in the 1870s time frame by Dennison, Anglo American or EWCo.

 

[Keith R...]

Thanks Tom, I offered to work with George to put SN's together.

I picked my Melrose up as movement only in the US and cased it. As you can see, it's a late Melrose.

Keith R...

 

[geo.ulrich]

Tom, I will incorporate the #'s from your Denison orphans writings in list, I will distinguish full plate or 3/4 and wash. st. models as full plate or 3/4 as found. Jewel count also if known and other strange findings in fileand forward to Keith... Cases would be nice but always makes me skeptical of originality . English cases and over 10000 serial # would be great but as you stated there is no way to know what was sold where.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

If someone has a "correct" case and a loose movement they are likely to combine them. When I do that I try to record the original information on the case and I keep the movement in my movement collection.

I think if we could get a few hundred examples documented, we might be able to make some sense of it all. If the Washington Street all cluster, we may be able to figure out when from other information.

My friend Bob Howatt may have some information on the Washington Street operation from his research into Bingham. I need to dig out the picture of the Bingham "private label" Tremont that showed up a while back.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Speaking of Bingham at Tremont:

Edited to add directory cover.

 

[joetime]

3/4 Tremont Washington ST 15j sn#40149,Tremont private label 7j sn#1046,Tremont 7j sn#1328,Temont 15j sn#8864,English Watch Tremont 7j sn#120161,Melrose 11j sn#31882.here some i have joe

 

[Tom McIntyre]

I think there must be a story about the dials also.

Besides the marked/unmarked and Jerry's double sunk dial, the 3 Melrose dials above are all different. The one without hands may be a strange restoration of a lost seconds bit, but it is also missing the outer circle on the seconds chapter. The early serial has a curved signature while the other two are straight.

 

[geo.ulrich]

Tom, yes the dials also seem all over the place Tremont Watch Co. straight across also arched also with Boston added and if I remember Jon Hanson said at one time the early models 1500 under ?? were lower jewel count and dials were unmarked. I have not seen this hopefully someone will have an example ....

 

[joetime]

I have of two unmarked dials example already posted sn#1046 an sn#1328 both 7j

 

[geo.ulrich]

Joe, Thanks for verification...

 

[Kevin Neathery]

Melrose 33035
Tremont 3865

 

[geo.ulrich]

added thanks

 

[hans]

I have Tremont Watch Co. 15J , s/n 1874 in a Fahys oresilver case s/n 744
Boston

rgds Hans

 

[geo.ulrich]

Hans , Thanks

 

[PW Collector]

I have Tremont Watch Co. #4859
Dave

 

[geo.ulrich]

Dave, Thanks do you know jewel count and case mfg'er I will add to list . George

 

[PW Collector]

4859 listed as 15 jewels
Dave
Case markings:

 

[geo.ulrich]

Dave, thanks entered

 

[ar05075]

I have started a new post of serial #'s of Tremont's, Melrose and English Tremont's please feel free to add any numbers you might have Thanks George 1505,2434,2738,3027,3202,3947,4267,4688,4773,4990,5214 wash.st,5228 wash.st,5890,6308,6791,7389,7646,8466,9198,9339,9607,9610,9829,9940,12572,31694 Melrose,4859,5209,8864,11240 wash.st.,32386 Melrose, 31291 Melrose,33035 Melrose,40149 3/4 plate wash.st,

Tremont 5259 and Tremont 40137 3/4 plate.

 

[ar05075]

I have started a new post of serial #'s of Tremont's, Melrose and English Tremont's please feel free to add any numbers you might have Thanks George 1505,2434,2738,3027,3202,3947,4267,4688,4773,4990,5214 wash.st,5228 wash.st,5890,6308,6791,7389,7646,8466,9198,9339,9607,9610,9829,9940,12572,31694 Melrose,4859,5209,8864,11240 wash.st.,32386 Melrose, 31291 Melrose,33035 Melrose,40149 3/4 plate wash.st,

I have Tremont Washington St #5259 and Tremont Washington St 40137 3/4 plate, (Steve)

 

[geo.ulrich]

thanks I have entered them

 

[River rat]

I Have 2292,2425

 

[geo.ulrich]

thanks entered

 

[4thdimension]

I got my first Tremont ever at the flea this morning. #4926 is 15j with the straight dial signature. It cleaned up easily and running strong. No case but for 20- I'm pleased.-Cort

 

[geo.ulrich]

Can you get photo of movement I entered serial #

 

[4thdimension]

I'm unable to post pics (sorry). I found a case and she's keeping great time in my pocket now.-Cort

 

[Lee Passarella]

Serial No. 6344, from late 1865.



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[geo.ulrich]

thanks recorded

 

[geo.ulrich]

I am posting what I have so far. I have only recorded information as given as to jewel counts and cases

 

[geo.ulrich]

updated

 

[joetime]

one of the 3/4 plate Washington st sn#40149 you might have typo

 

[geo.ulrich]

Joe I added 40149, 40137 was from someone else

 

[Donald Willis]

I have a Tremont # 5750.

 

[geo.ulrich]

thanks I will record , any other info. jewel count, dial or a photo is good...

 

[vintageguy]

Here are some pics of Tremont 3219. One cool thing about this watch is the "DUEBER PAT. AP'D FOR" stamp on the movement side of the frame. Not sure about the jewel count.

 

[vintageguy]

And here's Melrose 32922 . . .

 

[Keith R...]

Mike, Tremont 15J, Melrose 11J. Nice watches!!

I am #8399 Tremont, #32386 Melrose. Welcome
to the brand.

Keith R...

 

[geo.ulrich]

Thanks and recorded I had the Tremont but not the Melrose....also really nice case on the Tremont

 

[jmdunlap]

I have a Tremont sn 3175. It has a gold uncompensated balance which I don't know if it is original. Jewel count is 15. The case is a 'Warrented F.M. coin silver'.

 

[jmdunlap]

I also have a Tremont 4394 and Melrose 30311

 

[Keith R...]

Melrose corrected after jewel count:

All full plates.

Melrose #32386 15J.
Tremont #8399 15J Boston
English Tremont #10006 15J (original English case)
English Tremont #10596 15J (original English case)

Keith R...

 

[pmwas]

11435. Likely English, but no case and no dial. Unmarked, 7jewels, solid steel balance.

 

[watchbob]

Tremont 1742, 3021, 1488, 11,234, 10,600 , 13541 Tremont Watch Co dial unmarked movt - dial plate cut for English style case but not done in Am. case, 11223 Washington St, 11251 Washington St, 4350 3/4 pl., 40247 movt. English style unmarked
No sn on plates ( 10346 under ) C M Hoffman Boston dial & C M Hoffman Lebanon NH Dec 25, 1872 on movt

 

[Joe Blossic]

George, Keith, hope this helps. Joe
Listed as - "Melrose Watch Co, 11-15J, 18S, coin silver original HC with front having eagle and patriotic crest, "Tremont Watch Co" marked white enamel SS dial, KWKS, gilt mvt, s#31840"

 

[Fred Hansen]

A very early Melrose Watch Co. example, serial #30003 which I believe is the third Melrose made by serial number ...



Its serial number marking is in a bit different position than other Melrose movements I’ve seen, being tight against the edge of the barrel bridge rather than shifted a small bit to the left.

 

[Jon Wagner]

Mine is SN 5800

 

[Jon Wagner]

The face of #5800