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Don’t know much about it
I would expect a Unitas ebauche (Tremelan, Switzerland) from a brief look at Stowa a while back. Even earlier Stowa watches from the 30's use their movements. They still use a modern version of the same made by ETA in some pilot/marine wrist watches. Nice daily! Pic of the movement would confirm.
 

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I would expect a Unitas ebauche (Tremelan, Switzerland) from a brief look at Stowa a while back. Even earlier Stowa watches from the 30's use their movements. They still use a modern version of the same made by ETA in some pilot/marine wrist watches. Nice daily! Pic of the movement would confirm.
Here’s a pic of the movement.

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Just a friendly reminder that this is the American Pocket Watch section of
the NAWCC forum we also have a European section for Swiss watches.





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No problem. I’ll leave the thread.
Better yet, next time you wear one of your American or American Private Label (American or European)
watches post it here. :)


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I took this watch out of the bank so I could appreciate and compare the enamel detailing on the case with another example (shown in this thread - https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/enameled-american-watch-cases.66861/#post-1488422 ). When I decided I would like to wear it for a few days I found it would not run ... it was a little gummy after sitting around for a number of years. If fact, I bought this watch on eBay exactly 20 years ago - 9/17/01 - and it came with this chain. Chain and case are green gold. So, after a cleaning (and a better second hand) it is running fine again. (Yup, another Riverside, too). I have said it before, and I still feel that the 14-size Colonial-A is my favorite size watch to wear.

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I decided to visit some family in NY State today and I just wound
up and set this 18-size double signed Illinois NY private Label from Canandaigua, NY.

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This Appleton Tracy was just serviced and I have never worn it before today.
I just set the time and put it in my pocket.

Waltham Appleton Tracy 17j circa 1900 Model 1892 18 size Church regulator
in a 3oz Fahys Sterling Silver case

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This has become my daily driver during the work week.
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However, for the past two days this Waltham has been accompanying me in my travels. Nothing special or particularly valuable, but it's a solid watch. Perfect to keep around for someone who has a budding interest in horology. Learned this from a few NAWCC members.

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Hey Rick,

I also like that dial style from the 1890's very much I have a few
including a Hamilton with that same dial style
I'll wear this one for Christmas (now in my pocket).
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I've just wound up this 18k Hamilton 923, #R951.

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It was made between 1938 and 1943, which makes it one of the youngest watches in my collection. Schwab & Wuischpard made the case. The 923 was Hamilton's top-of-the-line prestige watch from the late 1930s until production stopped around 1956. They are not especially common. Only around 3,400 were made. I have two other 923s, one in a solid 14k case and one in a solid 18k case.

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Here is an ad for the last watch shown above.

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Despite having 17 Hamiltons in my collection, I don't find them as interesting as Elgins, Walthams, or Illinois, at least not in the sizes I collect. I think that's likely because all my Hamiltons were made between 1917-1947 and Hamilton practiced greater uniformity in manufacture and design than other makers. Just to cite one example, Elgin largely carried through with its original intent that each one of its top-of-the-line 1920s-1930s prestige watch, the C.H. Hulburd, would have a unique combination of case and dial, resulting in many strange-looking watches that better suit my tastes than any comparable Hamilton, which is why have nearly as many C.H. Hulburds in my collection as Hamiltons, such as this odd-ball 14k example.

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Because Hamiltons do not get much love from me, in the Christmas spirit -- "a kind of forgiving, charitable, pleasant time; when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely" (quoting Dickens) -- I decided to give one of my 923s an outing this Christmas day.

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Me like this one of yours very much Ethan,

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Today I'm wearing three time pieces for no particular reason.
I've been wearing a vintage Hamilton Neil WW for a few days and my daily wear
1928 16s 478 BWR PW but I was looking at this little(really little) Waltham Riverside that I really like
and wound it up and put it in my pocket too.

Hope some others are carrying today too.

circa 1935 Waltham 3/0s 21j Riverside grade 371 Stearling case.

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Out today is my circa 1918 Illinois Grade 435. Illinois made four grades of model 1 "extra thin" 12-size movements, 435, 437, 438, and 439. (It's odd that Illinois skipped "436," but I've never seen an explanation.) None of these are especially common. As far as I know, they all were factory-cased in solid gold or platinum cases. Grade 435 is the entry level grade, 17 jewels, and the scarcest. Only 310 were made. My example is in its original 14k case and has the original dial and correct hands. It has an interesting inscription Mother to John, June 20, 1919, except that the engraver goofed and failed to put a space after to.

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Grade 437 was very similar to Grade 435 except that it had 19 jewels. It is the most plentiful of these uncommon grades. 2,060 were made. I have a 14k example. It looks very similar to my Grade 435 -- same style case, dial, and hands.

Grade 438 was the 21-jewel version. I believe that 1,090 were made I am lucky enough to have two 14k versions, one of them enameled, and an 18k version.

Grade 439 was the top-of-the-line 21-jewel Extra version of this model. It is almost as scarce as Grade 435, 350 or 370 were made, depending on the source one checks. I am fortunate to have four examples, two in enameled 14k cases, one in an 18k case, and one in a platinum case, one of the apparently few platinum Illinois pocket watches ever made.
 

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This hasn't been out in a long time, so today seemed like a good day.
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It fired up on the first wind and still running great. 5oz Dueber coin silver "anchor in shield" case and the thick flat crystal make it very heavy and bulky.
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Here is the watch sitting next to a 16s that I'm used to carrying to show the size difference.
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Have a good day everyone!
 

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I started wearing this one in post #311 that is the photo
on the left, the silver watch case was very oxidized (blackened by time).
After wearing it for a month see photo on right. It shines
now. Unfortunately, it had a heart attack a few weeks back and
the main spring detached and needed some attention. Now
it's back in my pocket this morning alive and well.

Anyone else carrying today?


18s 17j 92 Waltham Appleton Tracy
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This571 is by far the youngest American made watch in my pile. It took me a while to find a really nice one, and the wait was worth it.

This exact dial was a must. Who doesn't love marginal minutes, and the BW Raymond signature is just too cool!

I still can't wear a gold filled chain... It's just not my thing... So this over the top sterling chain is attached today.

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Out for the day and ticking on my desk is one of my two South Bend Grade 431s. I am not a South Bend collector. No posters to these forums seems to a South Bend collector, at least not of Grade 431s. I could not find any material postings relating to that grade, which surprised me, because Grade 431 was South Bend's top-of-the-line 12-size watch, 21 jewels, adjusted to temperature and five positions.

Even though Grade 431 wasn't especially uncommon -- up to 3,000 were made -- I rarely see them offered for sale, not that I am looking to add any more of them to my two-watch South Bend "collection". Still, they are nice watches that deserve more respect than they appear to be getting.

The Grade 431 that I have out today was made around 1910. It is in its original 14k South Bend Chesterfield case.

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Because Grade 431s do not appear to have been discussed before in these forums, here are photos of my other Grade 431, this one in a two-tone 14k South Bend Chesterfield case made by Solidarity.

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My AT MS died again, so this one has slipped into my pocket.

Elgin 18s Grade 100 Convertible/interchangeable circa1886(pendant set).
(Special case not needed for these)
I'm not sure if I have ever carried an interchangeable as a carry watch.
I'll wear this one for a few days.

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