Threadless pendants?

Leo Ross

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I am trying to learn everything there is to know about antique pocket watch cases. I have several that don’t have any threads on the inside of the pendant and don’t have a cap or threads on the outside of the pendant and also have no setscrew. I have no idea how to proceed putting a stem and sleeve and crown in these cases? I will try to include some photos but know going in ,there is no set screw, and there are no threads on the inside or the outside of the pendant. I’m quite sure that this is a very easy question for most of the people on this site. I am the epitome of a rookie. Thank you for your kindness and compassion in advance… Leo

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Jerry Treiman

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Pictures and sizes will help. You could be describing cases for some stem-setting models where the stem is locked into the movement with a detent screw (e.g. Waltham 1888 or 1889 models or early Hamiltons) or where the stem screws into the internal setting parts (e.g. some Waltham 1884 and 1889 models). You could also be describing some late model cases (1920s and later) that have very short stems with a sleeve that fit, without thread, into the pendant from the inside of the case.

It will be easier to keep responses straight if you just make follow-up posts to the same thread. I am asking the moderators to combine your posts.
 
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Jerry Treiman

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Please see my response to your other post. This case will not need a sleeve for the type of movement originally intended for it. The stem will attach to the movement in one fashion or the other. Is this a 16-size case or a ladies' size case?
 

Skutt50

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I think you need movements with the stem attached to the movement for these cases. Very common on European made watches from the era.
 

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