Those Hamilton Watch inspector wallets

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  1. DeweyC

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    I bought this for $10 on ebay recently and discovered it contained a fragile watch inspection card.

    I think I now understand how these were used. The card is signed by Ammerman and at the bottom of the card is printed that this card is not to be defaced or allowed to be soiled. It is a UP card from 1929.

    I now think that these wallets were sold to railroaders to keep their cards clean. Others probably already knew this. Used leather preservative to restore the wallet. I have to laminate the card to save it.

    As a side note, it is for an 18s Elgin that was grandfathered in.
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    Great buy for $10! These items from any of the watch companies are usually higher, and well used, to say the least. Thanks for sharing.
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  3. Jim Haney

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    #3 Jim Haney, Nov 8, 2018
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    Dewey,
    Yes, these were promotional item that agents ordered from Hamilton for their customers. Terry Hall has a few of these and one for Ball Watch Co. The following are good Hamilton Info for you you can copy and save them.
    The first shows some advertising merchandise available to agents (dealers) and it wasn't easy to be an Agent without them checking you out.

    The second is a Company statement for the industry

    The 3rd is a promotion that some jewelers used to increase sales '

    The last is a statement to the Agents on company principals and assurances.

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    Wouldn't it be great to find the watch in the 3rd picture. The ad has the serial number of it:D
     
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    Thanks Jim. Also sent you a private message.
     
  5. terry hall

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    These are a great 'collecting' piece, though tough to 'find' at ten bux!!

    I've an accumulation of them, but never have scanned individually....

    I personally would not laminate that inspection card... but that's me.

    Here is another scan that Jim has pictured above of the promotional materials, (it may show a bit better in this version, it is in a 1909 material catalog from my recollection...
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    Well I was mistaken, I had scanned a few for a talk I gave for Chapter 17 on 'travel'

    The Hoffer and the Pugh Bros may NOT be Hamilton (for sure on the Pugh) so fire me :)
    hoffer.jpg pugh bro pitts pa.jpg

    The balance are Hamilton...
    holz salis.jpg kneeburg.jpg ymca gladstone va.jpg

    I'll add some more over time.....
     
  6. terry hall

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    Not only did these wallets protect the watch certificate, but also the issued passes...

    Most folks will call these pass holders. Notice anything on this one??

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    Terry thank you. Please tell me what I overlooked in the last images. Is it that a Colonel was working as an office porter:???:

    Regards,

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    The thing that struck me is where there was no access, Pullman and parlor cars, hmmmm.
     
  9. terry hall

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    to all.. the southern pass was issued during 'jim crow' era.

    Col after the name meant 'colored', note the restrictions on the card, believe stamped in red ink.

    I have a couple other examples, and one states 'colored' not sure if i have an image of it.

    Believe this is in the inside of an Illinois pass wallet...for the wife, i have the watch, and attached is other info on the man
    ed bolden RR pass 022.jpg ed bolden jr.jpg
     
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    Terrible, but educational.
     
  11. DeweyC

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    Terry,

    That is a fantastic piece of history. Even though I am 65 I could only conceive that COL stood for Colonel. Shows exactly where we were not too long ago. Thank you for sharing that.

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  12. terry hall

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    Let us refer back to the circa 1909 items, upper left. Note all of these precede the dating of the leather pass holders...(IMHO)

    I believe in the lower right is the rear of a Hamilton Time book
    The Hamilton "time books' which the first ones have an celluloid cover. Inside of the time books were ruled pages for the worker
    to record his time and other information. There is also a calendar, as well as watch 'advertising'.
    Most of these also have an internal pocket to hold a Pass, or a Watch Certificate.
    These Celluloid covered items are now very fragile, and I now lack a camera that can make a decent image.
    I may later include some scans of these...

    In the upper left we have an image of a Pass Holder or watch certificate holder.
    These are also a celluloid, and have a 'binder' stitched around the edge.

    Some of these were imprinted on the celluloid cover and stitched, There is a card stock insert also.
    The top one does not have a Jeweler's or other's name, which is unusual.
    .The back side of both below have no imprinting.
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    Here is a different one, imprinted on the celluloid and marked as an advertisement
    Shown with a watch certificate the holder contained.
    ham2a.jpg ham2b.jpg

    ham3a.jpg ham3b.jpg

    I've a couple in this style that are leather with a clear celluloid back.

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    Here is a later celluloid example... imprinted for inspector

    Note the locomotive design, helps date the item...
    these are pretty fragile.
    Believe I have one that is not imprinted also but no scan.

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    Coming full circle now.. Leather Pass Holder for this same inspector..
    fox rocky mount a.jpg fox rocky mount b.jpg

    Enjoy.
     
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    Looking for something else and found these variants...

    Noted...
    One opens at the top, one on the side these seem slightly smaller than the later ones.

    Both are marked Rail Road Timekeeper of the World...
    This is an early mark and used only for a short period of time before changing to Rail Road Timekeeper of America
    Dated this marking via Time books with calendar so marked... probably explained this in a way earlier posting (10+years ago)
    Enjoy...
    ham4a world.jpg ham4b world.jpg
     
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