Thos, Russell & son wind indicator parts missing

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  1. D.th.munroe

    D.th.munroe Registered User

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    Hi all
    I have this Thos, Russell and son lever watch, going barrel with 'reversing wheel' in place of the fusee, (not sure of correct term for that I have 5 or 6 of them though), for a while and have been looking for a picture of one or some way to identify the missing parts, I have found some of the parts in other drawers here, in the 3rd picture
    (I got a couple 100 watches and hundreds of clocks from a man who sadly had dementia and the last couple years he was just taking things apart and forgetting how to put them back together, so most parts are, I hope, here just mixed up)

    I've seen the wind indicator with an endless screw that moves a lever to the hand but not one like this.
    Thanks
    Dan

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    #2 roughbarked, Nov 27, 2019
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    Correct me if you think I'm wrong but the pinion in the loose parts has two sets of pinion teeth. One connects to the barrel to display that the watch is running down and the other should connect to the arbor to show that the watch has been wound up. If that is the case is the smaller pinion removable and friction slipping on the shaft? It also appears that you are missing the linkage to wind up the wind indicator.
     
  3. gmorse

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    Hi Dan,

    I've sent you a PM.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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    I am not aware, obviously, what Graham included in his PM but I suspect that the picture below is what your wind indicator parts should look like. I also suspect that you will be very fortunate indeed to locate the necessary parts. If I am right in my supposition then the wind indicator mechanism is an S J Morgan patent of 1899 No 20134. This was used over a very short period of time as it was less than satisfactory in that, should the mainspring let go then the wind indicator mechanism was prone to destruction.

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    Hi Dave,

    Spot on!

    Regards,

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  6. D.th.munroe

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    Thanks guys
    I have seen that version. this one is similar but without the lever to the up down hand, on this one the up down hand pivot (missing) is right beside the opening for the 2 long pinions or pinion and threaded rod.
     

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