Thoma Uhren Baden

Chris Radano

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I just received this in the mail. The movement is 1/4 striking via 2 trains. Nice hand painted dial with St. George slaying the dragon. This clock isn't terribly old (1930s?), but it is pretty solid, certainly heirloom quality. One or both of the weights are not original, long pendulum. I guess the photos are a little dark, but the clock is also a bit darkened from age.

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I just received this in the mail. The movement is 1/4 striking via 2 trains. Nice hand painted dial with St. George slaying the dragon. This clock isn't terribly old (1930s?), but it is pretty solid, certainly heirloom quality. One or both of the weights are not original, long pendulum. I guess the photos are a little dark, but the clock is also a bit darkened from age.

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Interesting that in the '30's they made a clock in such a "retro" style.

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Why do you date the clock in the 1930s? To me, it looks older, maybe around 1900. The paper on the doors may be a clue. In the newer clocks the doors often had no paper and were lacquered.

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Yes, a retro clock. Very impressive clock to me, larger in size and solidly built. Even The chain is a thick gauge. The dial is thicker than most of this type of clock. It is probably a little browned because it was originally coated in varnish. I thought maybe the dial was added folk art, but everything looks original.

Why I think The clock is later:
The wood is newer, the design of the hands, the manufacturer's or retailer's badge in art deco style. Also the pendulum, and hands are coated in lacquer, which you don't see on older clocks.
 
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Uhralt

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You might be able to find out. The company retailing the clock still exists:
Juwelier Thoma
Adress:
Lichtentaler Str. 5,
76530 Baden-Baden

Telephone
+ 49 (0) 7221 24406

Telefax
+ 49 (0) 7221 38306


Good luck!
Uhralt
 

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Chris, your clock dial made me think of one I have squirreled away...

Ralph

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In the 1930s, and thus in the years of the Great Depression, there was no demand for clocks of this kind.

But in the 1970s in Germany a lot of clocks and also movements with wooden plates were made in retro design. The colors and the decor of the dial fit very well in the 1970s.

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Chris Radano

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I have attempted to contact Thoma Uhren by email with attached photos, requesting date. We'll see if that will bring results.

To me, this clock is a little older than 1970s. Here is a clock dated 1941, to me this clock looks similar age (dial only, I think the movement is older):

Pendeluhr, Bauernuhr, Wanduhr Baujahr 1941 | eBay

This clock could be 1940s or 1950s, we will see if I get a response from the company.
 

Burkhard Rasch

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AFAIK wooden plate movements had completely disapeared after WW I;for a verry short period after WW II ending with 1950 very few wooden plate movements were made in the BF region reactivating old techniques by some families with clock making tradition.The hand writing is Sütterlin,the old-pre WW II german type of hand writing,pointing to the 30ies; otoh one can resume that someone who had learned Sütterlin in the 30ies in school would use it throughout his life,i.e. till the late 70ies or 80ies.My mother used it throughout her life.It´s an enigma,I´m curious what the firm has to say.
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This is known as a surrer movement. It strikes the quarter then the hour, strikes the half then the hour, &tc, &tc. I have several examples and found that they stopped making them about 1860. I find it hard to believe they were made after WW ll, yet the chain sprockets are of modern form. The gears are cast brass. Most strange, thanks for sharing .
 

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This is known as a surrer movement. It strikes the quarter then the hour, strikes the half then the hour, &tc, &tc. I have several examples and found that they stopped making them about 1860. I find it hard to believe they were made after WW ll, yet the chain sprockets are of modern form. The gears are cast brass. Most strange, thanks for sharing .
Good observation. I know them as surrerwerk or whizzy works.

Ralph
 

Chris Radano

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Sounds like you guys missed this clock. I tried to post a link to the original thread from last July, but the photos were missing. Does anybody know who made this clock :?| :???::???:




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