THE FIGHT OF THE MAN AGAINST TIME, ESPECIAL WATCH

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  1. Juliocesar

    Juliocesar Registered User

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    Here I show you a very special watch that shows the constant struggle of man against time, in this case against Chronos, who appears with his scythe and is beaten by man.
    It is a very special watch, repeater of hours and quarters and of 7-1 / 2 minutes, in 18k gold and as in many other similar cases without recognizable signature, I suppose due to the issue of tariffs and things of the time.
    Appears a crown of a nobleman, in this case a Marquis with initials, if someone knows who could belong that does not hesitate to say it.
    Thanks for reading and I hope you liked it.
     
  2. Juliocesar

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  3. Ethan Lipsig

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    It's a beauty!
     
  4. MartyR

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    Beautiful watch, Julio :clap: You might consider posting it in the Complicated Watsches Forum!

    I'm not clear on what you mean by "4 automatic and 5 movements". Could you explain?

    I think the monogam is GRM, and I agree that the crown does look like that of a marquis. Are there any assay marks on the case? That might help us to determine if the watch was owned by a mainland European noble, or perhaps a British one!
     
  5. gmorse

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    Hi Martin,

    There's one just under the monogram but it's rather rubbed, and doesn't look like anything English; I wouldn't have expected it to be on a watch with these typically French features.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
  6. Keith R...

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    I like it!

    Note, I think I see Retard on the regulator. But the Swiss were pretty cagey.

    Keith R...
     
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  7. Juliocesar

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    By parts, I think the clock is by its galluza or is French or Geneva, another thing is where it was sold, as for the 4 automatas and 5 movements are the following: two of the automatas that play the bells, other two output both Cronos and punchinello and the fifth is the punchinello hit Cronos.
    As for the letters for me are two R and in the center an M, taking into account that the first R is inverted.
    Thank you for Reading.
     
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    Juliocesar,

    Can you make a video and post it in action?


    Rob
     
  10. DaveyG

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    For me the monogram is G M R
     
  11. MartyR

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    I can't disagree with that :) I think Julio is wrong about the "inverted R", and the only question for me is whether it's a natural left-to-right read as you suggest, or whether because the "M" is slightly smaller than the other two letters, that is to distinguish it as the final letter ... which was why I suggested "GRM" rather than your "GMR".

    The Marquis of Granby was a John Manners, so it might be that G R Manners was a descendant :rolleyes: Is there a European organisation similar to the British College of Arms where one could ask for a search?
     
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    I see where you are coming from Marty.
     
  13. Dano4734

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    Holy smoley that’s beautiful late 1700s?
     
  14. Juliocesar

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    is make this pocket watch in the year 1810.
     
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    https://youtu.be/18pkaFyZ_rk

    This is the video of the 4 automatic clock, I hope it can be played because I do not know how to place it.
    Thank you
     
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    Fantastic.

    Rob
     
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    It is for sale now on eBay. Are you the seller? NAWCC does not allow posts about items for sale in this forum. Moderator?
     
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    #18 bruce linde, May 4, 2019
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    always feel free to report posts... that sends a private message to the moderators so they can review posts and make sure they’re ok.

    and, yes, we do not allow discussion of or linking to active auction items....

    [note: this thread was restored after the auction ended, so people could view this very special watch]
     

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