The Elgin Medal: Request for Known Specimens

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I just recently picked up this G M Wheeler token that I thought
was fairly cool. If anyone has this watch they can have this token for free.

This is a fairly late one
circa 1878-1879


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Has anyone ever seen a matched watch and token? I'm sure there has to be someone out there who reunited the pair, or one that was kept with it's watch since purchase.
Not that I have seen here.


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Has anyone ever seen a matched watch and token? I'm sure there has to be someone out there who reunited the pair, or one that was kept with it's watch since purchase.
Less than a year ago, a watch and medal with matching serial numbers was listed on eBay. Unfortunately, the seller's asking price was unreasonably high, and I do not believe it sold.
 

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Here is my latest B W Raymond circa 1873-1874 it's in decent
shape but may take a bit to get it running again if ever ;)(photos used by permission)
It's actually my first B W Raymond Token.

Does anyone here have Elgin serial number 262708

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the highest quality production grades that have a token at the time of Robs would be Rubie and Raymond. A few years later you can add the grade 46 (14s, nickel, 15J, adjusted).


The 71 (8 size, nickel, Adjusted, 17 jewels) is certainly in serial number range, but I don't know if it had tokens like those other three. Maybe someone else has seen one for it?
 
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RE Grade 71
These weren't produced until 1878.



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Edit, I'm sorry about confusing things. I think my wires were crossed.
Not crossed at all, I have a G M Wheeler Token in post 53 from 1878(9). It was I who
had my wires crossed. :) o_O


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I always find it interesting that Rulau classifies the G.M. Wheeler variation as "C.M. Wheeler."
I've seen them listed on Ebay that way too.


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I will have to see if I have others, but here's one for a C.M. Wheeler. 305544.jpg
I should have known better, but referred to my token as a C.M. Wheeler in post #5 of this thread. :oops:.
However, if you look at the tokens, the "tail" on the G isn't nearly as clear as the "tail" on the G in Elgin - in fact, it definitely looks more like the C in Co on the token. Having said that, do all numismatic references have C. M., or are there some with G. M.?
 
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Just added an H. H. Taylor Serial Number 287706 to my collection.

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It is such a fine and happy image of Father Time; bare buns and wings flapping. I will find one of these someday. -Cort
Yes, and they are very substantial(in size and weight) as well.


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Congratulations!!! Which came first, the movement or the medal?
 

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I have 4 named ones
Gail Borden
G. M. Wheeler
B. W Raymond
H. H. Taylor

I would like an H. Z. Culver :)


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I have 4 named ones
Gail Borden
G. M. Wheeler
B. W Raymond
H. H. Taylor

I would like an H. Z. Culver :)


Rob
Culver is one of the more difficult variations to find. I only have only recorded a single example (#172376).
 

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Culver is one of the more difficult variations to find. I only have only recorded a single example (#172376).
So, I guess I will just take a(long) while :) .



Rob
 

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