The "Dollar" watch, show me some of yours.

Discussion in 'American Pocket Watches' started by musicguy, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  1. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Pat said:
    "On further investigation, I found quite a few more Wilson Porter watch patents assigned to NHCC that are not included in Townsend's book. And, as a sidebar, it looks like he also invented several features of the New Haven pedometer, along with many of the NHCC clock patents."

    Here is my New Haven Pedometer (maybe Wilson Porter Patent)
    Dave

    DSCN0690.jpg DSCN0692.jpg DSCN0693.jpg DSCN0694.jpg DSCN0695.jpg DSCN0696.jpg DSCN0697.JPG DSCN0698.jpg DSCN0699.jpg
     
    Brad Maisto, luvsthetick and PatH like this.
  2. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Thanks Dave! A slightly different pedometer here

    DSC03719.JPG DSC03720.JPG
     
  3. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    And a little newer one. Although the box says New Haven Pedometer, the company name shows Pedometer Corporation.

    DSC06485.JPG DSC06487.JPG DSC06488.JPG DSC06490.JPG DSC06491.JPG DSC06794.JPG DSC06795.JPG
     
  4. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    While we're on the topic of New Haven....Does anyone have information on this one? It is marked New Haven - pat pend. Looks like Townsend's plate #58, but definitely not your normal New Haven pocket watch.

    DSC06406.JPG DSC06408.JPG
     
    luvsthetick, Bila and PW Collector like this.
  5. darrahg

    darrahg Moderator
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 22, 2006
    1,393
    276
    83
    retired
    Houston
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Anything to eliminate material (hand). Ha! Fantastic Pat..
     
    PatH likes this.
  6. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Might have just inadvertently found the dial design for the watch, however the below link is for a clock dial, I don't know why it wouldn't have worked for a watch.

    US1072554A - Clock-dial. - Google Patents
     
    Bila likes this.
  7. 4thdimension

    4thdimension Registered User

    Oct 18, 2001
    2,362
    114
    63
    Country Flag:
    I sold one of those clocks last.month. It was the the first thing I thought of when I saw that watch.-Cort
     
    PatH likes this.
  8. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Could you post a picture of the clock? Thanks!
     
  9. 4thdimension

    4thdimension Registered User

    Oct 18, 2001
    2,362
    114
    63
    Country Flag:
    No, but next time I visit the owner I will snap a pic and email it to you.-Cort
     
    PatH likes this.
  10. richiec

    richiec Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    6,369
    302
    83
    Male
    automotive warranty inspector
    Brick, Ocean, NJ
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Here is a group I bought a couple of years ago, cheap, got them all running.

    IMG_2725.JPG
     
  11. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Ingersoll Triumph Pin-Set
    Post # 104 by Jim Haney shows one of these.
    I'm only posting mine to show the guarantee paper in the back cover. This is the only guarantee paper I have that is printed with white letters on a black background. It is usually reversed.
    Pat showed a neat one on red paper.
    Dave

    IMG_2368.JPG IMG_2369.jpg IMG_2370.JPG IMG_2372.jpg PICT0003.JPG
     
  12. Lee Passarella

    Lee Passarella Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Jul 8, 2015
    244
    286
    63
    Male
    tech writer
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Maybe I just don't know my pin-set watches, but the ones of seen and the one I own (devilishly hard to set, by the way) are just a plain pin and without the slot in which the pin on your watch appears to reside. It looks like the pin can be slid into a couple of different positions for some reason. Can you describe briefly how it works?
     
  13. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Lee,

    I have seen these watches referred to as rim-set rather than pin. Unlike most pinset watches (I have to agree they can be pretty difficult), the pin on these slides clockwise, or down, in the slot to allow the time to be set. It seems to me that when you slide the pin to the down position, it works like pressing the pin on a pinset, or lifting the lever on a lever set watch. It operates much more easily than the pinsets I've seen and you don't have to remove the bezel as you do in a lever set. I'll rely on someone more technically savvy than I to explain exactly how it works and to correct any of my assumptions.

    I believe the setting on this watch is included in Archibald Bannatyne's April 27, 1897 patent for the Waterbury Alarm Watch pictured here, although it may not be the only related patent. Bannatyne designed and patented many of the features of the early Waterbury Clock Co/Ingersoll H. Ingersoll watches. The rim set feature appears on a couple of different Waterbury Clock Co models as well as some of the Ingersoll Triumph, Eclipse and Champion models.
    US581504A - Alakm watch - Google Patents

    DSC03710.JPG DSC03711.JPG DSC03712.JPG
     
  14. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    1925 Ansonia Despatch.
    Movement diagram on page 6, plate 4 of the expanded version of Townsend's $ Watch book.
    Dave

    PICT0001.JPG PICT0002.JPG PICT0004.jpg PICT0003.jpg
     
  15. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,434
    1,815
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Dave, (and all the dollar watch collectors), has anyone found anything written on the
    under side of the dials?

    Keith R...
     
  16. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I'll digress for a minute....
    Just found a thread about clocks with this patented dial. I had totally forgotten about the One-Hand Clock Co.
    One Hand Clock Co.
     
    luvsthetick and PW Collector like this.
  17. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Keith R,
    On post #247 I stated, I removed the dial on a New Haven U.S.A., only because the back did not open and I wanted to see the movement and found the two dates stamped on the movement. I didn't see anything stamped on the backside of the dial.
    I normally do not disassemble my watches. I leave that up to someone that knows what they are doing.
    I have read that some of the "Radium Girls" signed their name on the back side of the dials they painted. I have several, but never checked them.
    Dave
     
  18. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,434
    1,815
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Thanks Dave, that answered my question exactly. I saw a show once on Radium
    dials.

    Keith R...
     
  19. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Radium Girls
    Ingersoll Yankee Radiolite, Black Dial
    Ingersoll Radiolite, White Dial
    Dave

    IMG_0008.JPG IMG_0004.JPG PICT0001.JPG PICT0002.JPG PICT0003.JPG IMG_1190.JPG IMG_1191.JPG IMG_0011.JPG
     
    johnnypocket, musicguy, PatH and 2 others like this.
  20. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Another of my advertising dollar watches.
    Ingersoll Yankee
    Dial marked: REXALL
    Rexall is a chain of American drugstores, and the name of their store-branded products. The stores, having roots in the federation of United Drug Stores starting in 1903, licensed the Rexall brand name to as many as 12,000 drug stores across the United States from 1920 to 1977. The "Rex" in the name came from the common Rx abbreviation for medical prescriptions.
    Dave

    DSCN0402.jpg DSCN0403.JPG DSCN0406.JPG 800px-Rexz.jpg
     
  21. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,434
    1,815
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Dave, I remember their competitor, Ekerd's Drugs, where one could wait for their
    scripts, while eating a "slaw dog". Just across the street, the one and only Sinclair
    gas station, complete with Dino the dinosaur as their Marquee.

    Keith R...
     
  22. Lee Passarella

    Lee Passarella Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Jul 8, 2015
    244
    286
    63
    Male
    tech writer
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Yep, there's a locally famous one in Duluth, Georgia, more famous for its breakfast and lunch counter than for anything else.
     
    Keith R... and luvsthetick like this.
  23. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Ingraham - commemorating Byrd's Expedition to Little America. The watch is dated 9-29.

    DSC06436.JPG DSC06441.JPG DSC06443.JPG
     
  24. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    And another Ingraham commemorating Byrd's expedition. The watch is dated 1-31. I'm not sure when either of these watches were actually produced.

    Ingraham Trailblazer box top.JPG Ingraham Trailblazer dierections back.JPG Ingraham Trailblazer directions.JPG DSC00603.JPG DSC00605.JPG Ingraham Trailblazer movement.JPG
     
  25. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Byrd watches must have been good sellers for Ingraham. Here's another one along with the fob.

    Ingraham Explorer.JPG Ingraham Explorer back.JPG Ingraham Explorer movement.JPG Byrd fob.JPG
     
  26. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Ingersoll Eclipse
    Serial No. 9760457 (mfg. 1904-05)
    Guarantee Paper dated July 20, 1905
    Dave

    DSCN0702.jpg DSCN0703.JPG DSCN0704.JPG DSCN0705.jpg DSCN0706.JPG DSCN0707.JPG DSCN0708.JPG DSCN0709.JPG DSCN0710.JPG DSCN0711.JPG
     
  27. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Ingersoll Made In Great Britain.
    Ingersoll Yachtsman
    A timer to enable you to see at a glance the number of minutes and seconds to go before a race starts and then to time the race.
    Dated 1958.
    Dave

    PICT0001.JPG PICT0004.jpg PICT0005.jpg PICT0002.JPG PICT0003.JPG
     
  28. Steven Thornberry

    Steven Thornberry User Administrator
    NAWCC Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    20,968
    659
    113
    Male
    Ne’er do well
    Here and there
    Country Flag:
    DiMaggio and Rizzuto, a pair of Yankees.

    The first has serial number 40723103. Following Townsend’s production date table, that would place it ca. 1915. This is consistent with the latest of 6 patent dates on the movement, November 12, 1912. Plate # 34 in Townsend seems closest to the movement configuration. The stem is pushed in to set the time. There is a presumably post-production monogram on the back, apparently the letter “D.”
    Dial.JPG MOvement.JPG Movement SN.JPG Case Back.JPG

    The movement in the second example seems closest to plate # 38 in Townsend. The stem pulls out to set the time. The latest of the two patent dates is November 14, 1922.
    Dial.JPG Movement.JPG Movement SN.JPG

    It is a somewhat smaller watch as can be seen from the comparison pictures below. I found in Tran Duy Ly’s book on Waterbury clocks and watches a 1926 sales advert for an Ingersoll Yankee, which is called “The new YANKEE,” described as “Smaller-smarter-much thinner.” The inference I tentatively draw is that the new Yankee was introduced in 1926 or not long before. So, this watch may be an example of the new Yankee, though with a different dial. (BTW, I am not sure the picture of the new Yankee was meant as one of Spalding and Co.'s offerings.)
    Side by Side.JPG Width.JPG 1926 Ad.JPG

    The serial number presents a problem. It is 4892639. Townsend’s table would place it in the 1898-99 range, way too early. Perhaps an initial digit has been omitted. FWIW, Townsend’s plate # 38 shows a 7-digit SN preceded by an “F” (F3514247). Taking the “F” as standing for the number “6,” that would place the serial number on plate # 38 in the 1923-24 range. However, there is no indication that an “F” or any other letter was ever on the movement in my watch, though a 1923-24 production date would be consistent with the 1926 date mentioned above. So, I don’t know what to make of it really.
     
    luvsthetick and PW Collector like this.
  29. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    INGERSOLL LTD
    LONDON
    TRIUMPH
    Movement marked:
    MADE IN GT BRITAIN
    53 12M (December 1953)
    This watch has an outer protective case.
    Dave

    PICT0001.jpg PICT0002.JPG PICT0003.JPG PICT0004.JPG
     
  30. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    #280 PatH, Oct 28, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2018
    Steven,
    I'm definitely not an expert on this, but by the look of the watch and the shape of the regulator, I'm guessing that the newer Yankee might be from Great Britain rather than US Ingersoll/Waterbury. From what I've seen, it seems that most US Ingersolls have a hooked end while their cousins have the straight version as shown PW Collector's recent posts. Are there any markings to indicate such? Wonder if that would also account for the serial # discrepancy?

    Pat

    Edit: just looked at pictures of one of my 1939 Ingersoll World's Fair watches - marked Made in USA and has the straight regulator....blew my theory out of the water!
     
    Steven Thornberry likes this.
  31. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    A couple of 1939 NY World Fair Ingersolls - the first is missing the stem, and has some pretty serious hairspring issues, but the dial and shape certainly look like the watch in Stephen's post. I have to wonder if this movement is original to the case. It has the same patent numbers as the second, but serial begins with 1 while the second begins with 3.

    The second one has a different dial. I didn't post the back which is the same as the first, but with considerable paint loss. Maybe I need to look for another 1939 WF watch....

    Pat

    DSC03127.JPG DSC03129.JPG DSC03130.JPG DSC04275.JPG DSC04278.JPG
     
  32. Steven Thornberry

    Steven Thornberry User Administrator
    NAWCC Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    20,968
    659
    113
    Male
    Ne’er do well
    Here and there
    Country Flag:
    Hi, Pat. If there is a pattern to use of a particular regulator style, it is not clear to me. In this post above, I posted pictures of my Ingersoll Midget, which I dated ca. 1931. It has the same regulator as my larger Yankee. Both the midget and the Yankee movements show a patent date of November 12, 1912, which seems to be the patent for the regulator. I provided a link to the patent document in my post on the Midget. It may bear close reading to see if there is a clue to when it is to be used.
     
    PatH likes this.
  33. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Steven,
    In response to your second Yankee, the smaller one, I can't explain the serial number vs date.
    In the expanded version of Townsend's $ Watch book, page 78, last image in the Ingersoll group, which appears to be out of a Sears 1938 advertisement, shows a Ingersoll Yankee, thinner than any other model, with the same style dial as on yours and the case appears to be the same. Unfortunately, it lacks an image of the movement.
    To make this interesting, here is mine. The movement configuration, matches the diagram, plate 38, page 17 in Townsend's book.
    The serial number stamping on the movement is:
    A
    99389164 (Townsend's approx. production dates ends at 96,000,000 date 1944) (In the Complete Price Guide To Watches, it states that in 1944, U. S. Time Corp. acquired the Waterbury Co. and continued the Ingersoll name. My Ingersoll Yankee most likely falls in the U.S. Time Corp. period.
    My dial is a metal dial and yours appear to me to be metal also.
    The case is a "slip-together" type case where the inside of the back is marked, Made in U.S.A. Pat. Applied For. The movement with dial lays in this back part that has a slot cut out for the crown to fit in. The top piece the case, contains the crystal and slips over the top of the rim of the bottom part of the case.
    This case appears to be the same style as yours & also pictured in Townsend's book.
    Dave (sorry for all the rambling).

    IMG_1192.JPG IMG_1193.jpg IMG_1194.jpg IMG_1195.JPG DSCN0732.JPG DSCN0733.JPG DSCN0734.JPG DSCN0736.jpg
     
  34. Rick Hufnagel

    Rick Hufnagel Just Rick!
    NAWCC Member Donor Sponsor

    Oct 25, 2018
    1,050
    1,269
    113
    Male
    Plumber
    Pittsburgh pa
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    The first one is my Ingersoll midget. Yep..... Tried to service it when I first started tinkering few years ago.... Found out the hard way that was a bad idea......

    Second isn't a pocket watch I'm sorry, and I don't even know what it is or who makes it, but the dang thing keeps perfect time, I got it in a box of Elgin parts one time, threw it on that band, and it's a neat little piece to wear around.

    IMG_20181029_005848840.jpg IMG_20181029_010106901.jpg
     
  35. Steven Thornberry

    Steven Thornberry User Administrator
    NAWCC Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    20,968
    659
    113
    Male
    Ne’er do well
    Here and there
    Country Flag:
    Not rambling at all, Dave. A good analysis. It reinforces my belief that something has gone awry with the stamping of the serial number on my movement.
     
    PatH likes this.
  36. Tom McIntyre

    Tom McIntyre Technical Admin
    Staff Member NAWCC Star Fellow NAWCC Ruby Member Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2000
    81,790
    1,292
    176
    Male
    retired SW dev
    Boston
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    This way out of the dollar watch story, but it does relate to Greely. This watch is signed for Barraud & Lund as made fro Wm. Bond & Son with Greely on the dial. It is interesting because very similar watches were the first watches used on Railroads in the United States and those were issued to the Vermont Central Railway.

    My fantasy is, of course, that this watch belonged to Greely.

    CapOutside.jpg Dial.jpg greely bond cap.JPG greely bond mvt.jpg
     
  37. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Here are 3 Ingersoll's.
    Dials Marked:
    WINNER
    CT W CO (Connecticut Watch Company)
    All 3 movements are the same size
    1 case is a smaller thinner case with a plain back. The 2 larger case have a locomotive embossed on the back of the case, & thicker crystals.
    Both bezel & back are threaded and screwed off & on. All 3 cases made by the Illinois Watch Case Co.
    The one on the left has serial number 30503383 (c.1911)
    It has patent dates of: Jan. 29,1901, Apr. 11, 1905, June 4, 1907, June 29, 1909, May 24, 1910
    The center (smaller cased) one has serial number 15167093 (c. 1908)
    It has patent dates of: Jan.13, 1891, Jan. 29, 1901, Apr. 23, 1901, Aug. 9, 1904, Apr. 11, 1905
    The one on the right has serial number 18046825 (c. 1909)
    It has patent dates of: Jan. 13, 1891, Jan. 29, 1901, Apr. 11, 1905, June 4, 1907
    Dave

    DSCN0781.jpg DSCN0780.JPG DSCN0745.JPG DSCN0758.JPG DSCN0768.JPG DSCN0742.JPG DSCN0760.JPG DSCN0771.JPG DSCN0765.JPG
     
    PatH, Keith R..., musicguy and 2 others like this.
  38. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Very interesting comparison, Dave. Is it just coincidence that all 3 of your Winners are in Illinois cases?

    My Winner is back set and dial is marked Winner U.S.A. No manufacturer name on the movement. Per Townsend, three of the patents are Ingersoll/Waterbury and the last is Ingersoll.

    DSC06392.JPG DSC06393.JPG
     
  39. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Pat, all cased as I acquired them.
    left , center, right
    Dave

    DSCN0748.JPG DSCN0775.JPG DSCN0766.JPG DSCN0781.jpg
     
    Keith R..., luvsthetick and PatH like this.
  40. Steven Thornberry

    Steven Thornberry User Administrator
    NAWCC Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    20,968
    659
    113
    Male
    Ne’er do well
    Here and there
    Country Flag:
    The current issue of the Bulletin (November/December 2018) contained a very interesting article by Mary Jane Dapkus on Early 19th-Century Connecticut Clock Making and Freemasonry. It included some pictures of clock dials and tablets with masonic symbols. We have seen on the MB examples of later clocks with Masonic symbols. It's an area that is worth studying given prevalence of masonic organizations even today.

    The article brought to mind a small item that I acquired some time ago. It is an Ingraham dollar watch from 1960, with masonic symbols on the dial and the back.
    Dial2.JPG Movement.JPG Case Back.JPG

    The back shows the compass and square with the all-seeing eye in the center. Here is a close-up of the symbols on the dial.
    Symbols.JPG

    I have been able to identify some of the symbols next to the numbers; others escape me. The number 6, of course, has no symbol near it. In the upper middle of the dial is the square and compass, the letter G, and what I believe to be acacia.

    1. Moon(?) 8. ?

    2. Anchor 9. ?

    3. ? 10. Jacob’s Ladder (?)

    4. Beehive 11. Point within a Circle (?)

    5. Gavel 12. All-seeing Eye

    7. Cross

    I have to say that I find the dial very busy and a bit overdone - hard to read. I wonder at times whether the symbols around the dial were added post-production.

    I used the following website to try to identify the symbols. Feel free to correct and supplement.

    http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-symbols/
     
  41. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    For a little Saturday dollar watch fun, here's an Ingersoll Eclipse "experimental/prototype" calendar watch.

    DSC02813.JPG DSC02814.JPG DSC02815.JPG DSC02818.JPG
     
  42. musicguy

    musicguy Moderator
    NAWCC Member Sponsor

    Jan 12, 2017
    4,245
    1,769
    113
    New York State
    Country Flag:
    Nice!

    Rob
     
  43. johnnypocket

    johnnypocket Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Jun 29, 2017
    126
    166
    43
    Male
    Semi-retired.
    Long Island, N.Y.
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    #293 johnnypocket, Nov 3, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2018
    Well another round of congrats is due Rob as "We" Dollar lovers approach 300 posts..Who woulda thunk...lol....I haven't posted in a while(Thanks to my so called retirement job)...BUT have been catching up and enjoying. So many informative posts. Alot of views too, great to see!!!! Lets keep it going. NAWCC take notice, many Dollar lovers in our ranks!
     
    PatH likes this.
  44. PW Collector

    PW Collector Registered User

    Aug 3, 2003
    559
    567
    93
    Back in post #200, I stated: SEARS files bankruptcy Oct. 15, 2018.
    Here is another dollar watch sold only by Sears, Roebuck & Co.
    This is a E. Ingraham, Tower, movement dated 1955
    Dave

    PICT0001.JPG PICT0002.jpg PICT0003.jpg PICT0004.JPG
     
  45. 4thdimension

    4thdimension Registered User

    Oct 18, 2001
    2,362
    114
    63
    Country Flag:
    I bought an Ansonia "Faultless" today at the flea for ten bucks. It is signed on the dial and movement and cased in a heavy Illinois Case Co. case with gold trim. I noted that the seller also sold empty cases for the same price. Live it up while you can folks!-Cort
     
    PatH likes this.
  46. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Ingersoll Quaker - circa 1902
    Retail Price was $2.50 each
    Net Trade Price was $18.00/Doz
    "...our new fancy engraved three-quarter back movement plate with fancy engraved solid bridge..."
    "This watch is our finest production and is a most wonderful piece of mechanism."

    Pat

    DSC04154.JPG DSC04156.JPG DSC04155.JPG
     
  47. 4thdimension

    4thdimension Registered User

    Oct 18, 2001
    2,362
    114
    63
    Country Flag:
    Holy xxxx! A wonderful piece of mechanism indeed! Where the heck.do find this stuff Pat? - Cort
     
  48. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Thanks, Cort. I like to think of these as the dollar watch version of damaskeened/damascened movements. I'm always on the lookout for early dollar watches and related advertising. (The NAWCC library and research center has a few of the early advertising booklets that have been invaluable.) The logo/model name/advertising on the dial is usually the first stop, then the hood comes up to check the plates. Unfortunately, until I retire, learning about the engine and getting them going has to wait. :(

    Pat
     
  49. Jim Haney

    Jim Haney Registered User
    NAWCC Member Donor

    Sep 21, 2002
    6,211
    766
    113
    Male
    Working the farm, Garden,horses, goats, chickens,
    Decatur, TN.
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Pat,
    That is a real classic, It has bushing pressed into the plate to stop the wear and maybe 2 or 4 jewels on the end of the balance, they may be fake just for looks but, hey they look good. What is the number on the dial ?
    Great find !
     
    Keith R... likes this.
  50. PatH

    PatH National Program Chair
    NAWCC Fellow NAWCC Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    1,239
    850
    113
    Female
    Texas
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Maybe we could also call this a "ruby jeweled" movement:???: :D Nah, probably shouldn't go that far.

    On the dial is actually R.H.I.&B. I'm assuming it's for Robert H Ingersoll & Bro. I don't recall seeing this on any other Ingersoll watch.
     

Share This Page