...so I hope it's okay that I post this information now. If not, I accept that judgement and understand why it was removed.
Recently a thread I had started was about an example of one of those cigar advertising clocks that was coming up for auction. These have been previously discussed at length on the Forums with arguments for and against their authenticity. It was quarantined. Okay. Though I did not provide a link to the auction, it was felt that I had provided enough info such that the auction could be identified. So be it. Well, the auction is over, and I am hoping it's now okay to do so.
As a side note. This lead to me being threatened with "moderation". Yes of course, other high crimes and misdemeanors I have committed will also be raised. Furthermore, I understand the necessity for appropriate rules and their appropriate reinforcement, but, like heck. If that occurred, it would have meant the end of my participation in the Forums. I suppose more than a few people would say phew and good riddance.
It was the Jeffrey Evans Auction, 2/26/2021, lot # 1039. Go to Live Auctioneers and search for the auction. I hesitate to link as I am permanently logged in. They're a very good experienced auction house. Their description speaks of various parts being replaced. No claims are made about the clock otherwise. If you peruse that auction, much of the advertising, and other stuff for that matter, blew the doors in on the estimates. This clock sold for too much (IMCO, any amount is too much) but under estimate.
Something superfluous from the same auction.
I did drink the Kool-Aid and may have overpaid for a lot. It's # 1529. Unless I missed something, which is quite possible, I think they thought this a typical Victorian wool work or trapunto piece. I have had some great ones over the years. Generally though, not in fashion and tough to sell. Too "Vicky" regardless of the skill with which they were made. It was cataloged as American or British. Based upon that, the original estimate wasn't too far off. No. I believe this to be much more rare. Unfortunately, a couple of other people must have thought so to and gave me a run for my $$. I NEVER get the sleepers at auctions with internet bidding.
A careful examination reveals that the flowers, buds, sheaves of wheat, etc. are made from a colored gauze like material. This was a technique taught in the Moravian schools in Salem, NC as well as Bethlehem and Lititz, PA. This technique is considered unique to those schools. It was generally done in the 1st 1/4 of the 19th century. As previously discussed on the Forums, this is a time when clock cases shared similar stenciled and or carved motifs. They are generally referred to as "ribbon" or "crepe work". Also note how the open basket of flowers seems to float in the center of the field on a small mound. Also typical of that kind of work. I own 2 others, a monumental piece and one that employs a painted scene. Here are those 2. Don't have permission to post the auction house's photos so if you're interested, you will have to go look:
Notice how I managed to work a clock into the second photo. I've owned 2 others, now living in other homes.
What is different about the new piece is that it is done on a black background. I could only find 3 other examples on a black back ground. One each from Salem, Bethlehem and Lititz.
For more, see Ring, Schiffer and Herr. Also search the collections of Winterthur, Old Salem Museums and Gardens and MESDA for examples.
RM
Recently a thread I had started was about an example of one of those cigar advertising clocks that was coming up for auction. These have been previously discussed at length on the Forums with arguments for and against their authenticity. It was quarantined. Okay. Though I did not provide a link to the auction, it was felt that I had provided enough info such that the auction could be identified. So be it. Well, the auction is over, and I am hoping it's now okay to do so.
As a side note. This lead to me being threatened with "moderation". Yes of course, other high crimes and misdemeanors I have committed will also be raised. Furthermore, I understand the necessity for appropriate rules and their appropriate reinforcement, but, like heck. If that occurred, it would have meant the end of my participation in the Forums. I suppose more than a few people would say phew and good riddance.
It was the Jeffrey Evans Auction, 2/26/2021, lot # 1039. Go to Live Auctioneers and search for the auction. I hesitate to link as I am permanently logged in. They're a very good experienced auction house. Their description speaks of various parts being replaced. No claims are made about the clock otherwise. If you peruse that auction, much of the advertising, and other stuff for that matter, blew the doors in on the estimates. This clock sold for too much (IMCO, any amount is too much) but under estimate.
Something superfluous from the same auction.
I did drink the Kool-Aid and may have overpaid for a lot. It's # 1529. Unless I missed something, which is quite possible, I think they thought this a typical Victorian wool work or trapunto piece. I have had some great ones over the years. Generally though, not in fashion and tough to sell. Too "Vicky" regardless of the skill with which they were made. It was cataloged as American or British. Based upon that, the original estimate wasn't too far off. No. I believe this to be much more rare. Unfortunately, a couple of other people must have thought so to and gave me a run for my $$. I NEVER get the sleepers at auctions with internet bidding.
A careful examination reveals that the flowers, buds, sheaves of wheat, etc. are made from a colored gauze like material. This was a technique taught in the Moravian schools in Salem, NC as well as Bethlehem and Lititz, PA. This technique is considered unique to those schools. It was generally done in the 1st 1/4 of the 19th century. As previously discussed on the Forums, this is a time when clock cases shared similar stenciled and or carved motifs. They are generally referred to as "ribbon" or "crepe work". Also note how the open basket of flowers seems to float in the center of the field on a small mound. Also typical of that kind of work. I own 2 others, a monumental piece and one that employs a painted scene. Here are those 2. Don't have permission to post the auction house's photos so if you're interested, you will have to go look:


Notice how I managed to work a clock into the second photo. I've owned 2 others, now living in other homes.
What is different about the new piece is that it is done on a black background. I could only find 3 other examples on a black back ground. One each from Salem, Bethlehem and Lititz.
For more, see Ring, Schiffer and Herr. Also search the collections of Winterthur, Old Salem Museums and Gardens and MESDA for examples.
RM