T. K. Smith, Oskaloosa, IA pocket watch

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Im wondering if anyone can help me identify the real manufacturer and type of watch the photograph shows.

The dial is simply marked
"T. K. SMITH"
"OSKALOOSA, IA"

Thanks for any help,
R

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reels,

Welcome to the Message Board !.

We can help you if you will post a picture of the movement, so we can see what company made it. It may be European and we can tell you that also with a good picture of the movement. You posted in the Illinois Private Label section and depending on what you have can move your inquiry to the correct area.
 

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Hi here are a few more photos which i hope will help in my search for info.

Its a very well made watch. The case even has springs on the covers. 20180726_191143.jpg 20180726_191230.jpg 20180726_191009.jpg 20180726_191143.jpg 20180726_191230.jpg 20180726_191009.jpg 20180726_191230.jpg

Many thanks,
R.
 

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Can't read the printing on the movement, looks like it says Swiss?

Why don't you tell us what it says?

Looks similar to a Longines movement.
 

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It does say "Swiss". Since it is a Swiss movement, I'm going to move your thread over to the European section. I'm sure someone there will be able to ID the movement.
 

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I agree with Jim, from the plate layout, hairspring stud and other features, it appears to be a Longines, but knowing the size and the serial number on the movement (not the number on the case) would help.
 

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Thanks guys. Ive been over this watch with a 10x loupe and i can only find the word "SWISS" on the back of movemet. Where else should i look for the SN? Should i remove the 2 screws holding the movement and look somewhere else?
Thanks for all your help.
 

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Maybe you need a better loupe. I can see a serial number on the edge of the plate by the Large ratchet wheel, looks like 509,xxx.
 

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On the Rolex shown the bridges curl up, on the OP's, the bridges curl down. It is only 7 jewels as well, doubt it is a Rolex but stranger things have happened.
 

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Hi reels,

The movements in Rolex pocket watches and early wrist watches were not made by them but were bought in from other manufacturers such as Aegler and Beguelin amongst others. Rolex finished them to their specifications; they didn't start making their own movements until after their first wrist watches were introduced. If the maker can be identified then the serial number may be useful, (as it would be for Longines for instance), but by itself it has no meaning.

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Thank you Graham,

Ive measured the diameter of the movement and it is exactly 1.430" .

I dont know what this equates to in euro watch movement sizing but maybe it will help somewhat.

I do know this, its one well made watch and is still running from a winding 2 days ago and it keeps accurate time!
Thanks,
R
 

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Hi reels,

That equates to 16 lignes or size 8 in Lancashire Gauge. This may well help someone like Ed Ueberall who knows the Longines movements much better than I do.

Regards,

Graham
 

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Did you adjust the regulator? It is showing in the picture adjusted all the way to the right(Slow) and it keeps accurate time in this position?
 

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Hi Jim, yes i moved the regulator from middle position to the slow position in my search for a name.

SERIAL NUMBER FOUND - Yes, gents it appears i do need a new loupe! The SN is right where you said and i hope it sheads light on its identification.
SN is 509086 and ive attached a photo of it. Ive also attached a number on the case which is not the case SN but another number.

Thanks for the help,
R. 20180801_014457.jpg 20180801_014527.jpg
 

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With the SN found would someone see if it matches a Longines movement?

Thanks so much,
R.
 

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The 6 digit serial number would put it at 1888 in the Longines serial numbers and your watch is not that old.

I don't see anything like it on eBay under Longines, the 3 finger bridges curl inwards on a Longines and your curve outward.

The cases serial numbers just use the last digits to match them up when assembling them so the numbers you show would match the last digits of the case number, however case numbers don't help any.
 

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It looks like the Regina private label line of Omega to me, but I do not have any information on them.
 

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