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  1. dweiss17

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    #1 dweiss17, Feb 1, 2015
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    Here I sit before my computer, the time is 4:23 PM, Sunday, February 1, 2015, I am going into my 100[SUP]th[/SUP] year of life, and yet I sit here in anticipation; like a little kid…as I await the start of Super Bowl #49 in a couple of hours. Being of this age, I hope to be favored with a couple more years of Super Bowl anticipations before I leave the world in which I now live.

    The little kid in me has never left…yet, I know I have mellowed…what I wanted done yesterday before I grew to this age, I now know you cannot rush time. While time is constant…you cannot rush it, nor can you delay it…it keeps marching on. For me it has marched on farther than for a lot of people who are no longer here with us to share our thoughts on this special day.

    In the United States of America this PM, this super bowl football game takes precedence over much of what America thinks about many the facets of life. Just stop to think the millions of plans that are going around the country in anticipation of this game…all the cookouts, the meals, the planning that went into those meals…the soft and hard drinks that will be downed by passionate viewers who will be rooting for one team or the other. Much money will be wagered on the outcome of this one game that eclipsed a season where 32 teams played 16 games each to reach the playoffs…which came down to this one super game today…only in America.

    Stop to think of the hundreds of thousands of miles [perhaps millions] traveled by teams and their support people to reach this game today. Stop to think of the millions upon millions of dollars spent to reach this goal today. The planning that went before this game and started long before the first game of the season was ever played is more than overwhelming. It took many human minds, it took scores upon scores of plans by team owners, bookkeepers, managers, players, coaches, doctors and just plain helpers on to reach this day called Super Ball Sunday.

    All day long on TV the game has been hyped by writers, columnists, guests, football players, and scores of other people employed by these TV stations to bring all this Super Bowl chatter to you. Before I forget…imagine the millions of dollars spent upon ads to run between plays of this game. Imagine the effort that went into creating these ads that will cost a small fortune to produce and run during this game.

    Perhaps, if you are a dreamer like me…and as old as me…you hope to live beyond this football game played today by the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks. As I turn around I see Bob Costas talking at a booth on the TV and watch one man carrying the ten yard measuring device with its chains. The time is 5:20 PM. Time for me to try to figure out what I am going to eat tonight.

    The little kid in me knows I cannot rush the time…as I await the start of Super Bowl #49…I hope the Seattle Seahawks lets the champagne fly later tonight.
     
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    Dan, as I worked at restoring a clock 3 times as old as you today, I thought about you, and your remarkable life to date. Hope you enjoy the game, should be a close one.
     
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    #3 Bill Stuntz, Feb 1, 2015
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    Gee, I wonder why there haven't been very many posts in the last 4 hours! GREAT GAME! But STUPID unsportsmanlike ending. Asinine. But emotions were high.

    And after "Deflate-gate" I think the wrong team won. I'm convinced that the Patriots intentionally cheated 2 weeks ago and shouldn't even have been IN the Super Bowl. I don't like cheaters/liars! I simply can't believe that Brady wouldn't recognize an under-inflated football the instant he gripped it. He could probably detect it without even touching the ball with the thousands of balls he's touched/examined/selected during his career. I wouldn't have a clue, but with his experience, it's just not a believable excuse. He used the more easily gripable/catchable under-inflated footballs supplied by his own team in the challenging weather conditions where the softer balls were a distinct advantage. Their opponents used the properly inflated ones HONESTLY supplied by their own team with no intention to cheat.
     
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    Here is my idea of what the Super Bowl should be

    CLICK HERE
     
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    #5 Bill Stuntz, Feb 1, 2015
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    Good one. I was expecting to see the World Cup since "football" doesn't seem to be what I think of AS football, except here. Didn't even think of Rugby until I started typing this. Does "football" make YOU think of Rugby? THAT might be different elsewhere, too. Many Americans seem to have an excessively USA-centric attitude and seem to think that if it isn't "just like home" it's wrong. I try very hard to recognize/avoid those stereotypes.
     
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    Down here we have Ruby league, Rugby Union, Soccer and Australian Rules Football. The most popular is Australian Rules, but we recognise them all as football. The hard sell for North American football down here is the length of the game and the amount of breaks between plays. We like our football to be hard, fast and continuous.
     
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    #7 Bill Stuntz, Feb 2, 2015
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    I usually ignore the commercials and look at the MB while they're on, so the delays don't bother me much, but I DO watch most of the Super Bowl ones for their creativity. Doesn't really encourage me to actually BUY the products, though. And there wasn't anything going in HERE to distract me from them.

    I've tried to teach my kids/grandkids that commercials are nothing more than big expensive con jobs, but they don't seem to believe me.

    I don't really understand the differences in the various sports that you mentioned, but I can at least somewhat understand what's going on if I happen to stumble across one on TV. And I've usually watched. No idea which version of Rugby I've seen, or even whether I've ever seen both. I try to notice/remember differences as I learn and don't try to memorize all the specifics. I tend to relate new information to things I already know and understand. It works well for me, but drives everyone else nuts when I do it or try to explain it. I try to remember that THIS is similar to THAT, and differs in this small way, rather than trying to remember all the tiny details about THIS since I already know most of the details because I already know THAT. Confusing, huh? But it works very well for me.

    Cricket... That's a whole different ballgame. (so to speak) :cyclops: I don't even have a CLUE what's going on! It's TOTALLY unfamiliar/confusing to me. And I don't care enough to try to figure it out. It seems like it must SOMEHOW be related to baseball, but the the fact that it uses bats/balls/bases seems to be the only things they have in common. It's a total mystery to me, even though it seems to be VERY popular in some places. Baseball... I can understand and enjoy watching occasionally even though it's too slow paced, but I'm afraid that Cricket shall forever remain beyond my ken. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I don't even bother stop if channel surfing reveals a game - which is extremely rare anyway.
     
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    The ending of this game brings back the painful Giant/Eagle game years ago when Joe Pisarcik(?) handed off to a running back with very little time left in a game and it was fumbled and the Eagles went on to score and win, Joe should have sat on the ball and they would have won. Wonder what were the Seahawks thinking on that last play?
     
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    Well---since Seattle has the best running back in the NFL--I can only imagine the players were thinking---"WHAT"!
    The coaches that called the play obviously were not thinking and I'm sure today (in reality)) they are scratching their heads and saying---"man I'd love to do that play call over again"!
     
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    One foot away from the goal line and they try throw a pass that is intercepted and brings a sorry end to Super Bowl game that will rank with one of the stupidest Super Bowl plays ever.

    To my way of thinking...Seattle did not lose the game...the Coach did.
     
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    I don't think I've EVER seen a pass when that close to the goal line! Maybe they thought that would be the last thing they'd expect?? I agree ..... dumb!
     
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    It was a strange ending all round. That million to one catch that got them to the 5 yard line. If the player had reacted to the catch a bit faster, he could have scrambled over the goal line, making the ending totally different, with Brady needing a miracle pass to answer to Seattle taking back the lead.
     
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    aren't we quick to judge when the facts haven't been presented.......?
     
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    #14 Bill Stuntz, Feb 3, 2015
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    I simply think the claim that Brady can't recognize an under-inflated football is a fairy tale, considering the 1000's of properly inflated balls he's handled in his career. IMHO his story is pure CYA. I'm not trying to say that HE under-inflated them, but his equipment manager has to know how he likes them in different weather conditions - and would probably have been fired long ago if he couldn't consistently get the footballs right. They know how much to scuff them, how to break them in, how hard to make them, etc. And how he likes his shoes to be shined.

    NOT trying to flame, just explain my opinion - which is nothing more than an opinion until the facts come in. But will what comes out actually BE the facts? There's WAY too many $$$$$$$$$$$$$ involved. I wonder if I put in enough $'s. For the teams, the players, the agents, the officials, the advertisers/sponsors, the network, the press, the gamblers, and the NFL. Lotsa lucre. The NFL et al. need to CYA, too. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they try to sweep it under the rug. I doubt that we'll ever know the whole truth.

    And I still think it was a GREAT game.
     
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    Bill:

    Your posting makes a lot of sense. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED for a fair determination and honest report to be forthcoming. Like I said earlier SEATTLE DID NOT LOSE THE GAME...THE COACH DID WITH HIS STUPID PASS!
     
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    I am a believer of not making a judgment before the facts are known.

    Questions that I have:

    Did the referees actually measure the pressure with an instrument or did they just feel the ball(s)?

    Was the one ball that they found 2 psi under, the one that was turned in by the opposition during the game and did the NFL question members/employees of the team?

    It has been reported that only one was about 2 psi below and the others were a few ticks below (whatever that means). So was the ball that was under inflated tested to see if there was a flaw in the bladder?

    For those balls that were slightly underinflated, what is/was the real effect of inflating them to 12.5 inside and after 2 quarters of play in the outside colder air. Was it enough to reduce the psi a few ticks? There have been at least two articles published (one from Carnegie Mellon University) that indicates that the outside pressure and temperature can effect the internal psi of the footballs.

    For the lighter side, I have tires on a hose carrier and a wheelbarrow, whose tubes are from China. They constantly leak air even after changing the valves....do the bladders come from China?

    It will be interesting to see if the NFL publishes the facts; thus, I await their published results.
     
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    Dan,
    I agree 100%
     
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    #18 Bill Stuntz, Feb 3, 2015
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    Can't argue against that, Dan! But I think a better way to phrase it might be:

    And for the reasons I stated above, I don't think Boston DESERVED to win.

    Dick: ALL great questions! I look forward to seeing the answers.

    And the REALLY CRAZY thing is that I'm not much of a football fan, and wouldn't have cared less who won - except for Deflate-gate!

    What happens if the decision is reached that someone in the Boston organization DID cheat to allow them to even PLAY in the Super Bowl?
    Would they have to forfeit the games, or WHAT? Super Bowl 49-1/2? Or just pretend that SB49 didn't happen? Imagine the firestorm! I think there are too many $'s involved to allow that to happen, and that might affect the results we see. I see NO possible GOOD outcome, no matter WHAT happens.
     

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