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  1. dweiss17

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    I really wonder how many of our near to 14,000 NAWCC members have computers and take the time to look at our Forum Members News and Views.

    I do know yesterday I took time to wish each of them a Happy, healthy new year. In return I counted five [5] members that wished the same.

    Knowing it to be the Holiday Season, really I did not expect a lot more than a few [six including me] to wish each other a happy, healthy new year.

    It does not surprise me to see such few replies; many people have many other things to worry about this coming year. The list of problems that quite a few of face could be and is often endless in its scope.

    That being said…perhaps, the sun will shine tomorrow as it has done for eons. And that people across the wide expanse of this world we live in…will find time to enjoy a little sunshine in their lives.
     
  2. Kevin W.

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    We are to a new year Dan, all the best in 2017.
     
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    Happy New Year, Dan - and all of the members who read this forum!
     
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    Happy New Year and don't forget to look at the sun and be happy.
     
  5. dweiss17

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    In trying to keep the Members News and Views alive; I interesting, I do a lot of posting. But it is very disheartening when you you get 2-3 or very few replies to your post. Yet you see hits on that post that can number over a hundred with very few words in return.

    Maybe, I expect too much from our membership. Or my posts are too stupid to reply too. Are we all so busy that we cannot spend a few moments to post a reply. Or am I still too much of a dreamer?
     
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    I think it is the nature of the net, that more reading than commenting is done. Look at any thread, I'm sure you will find many many more have read than commented.

    My passion is early English longcase, the earlier the better, but there are just a handful on here interested enough in them to comment. It doesn't stop me adding details of them to this fantastic resource, because someday I hope somebvody else who shares my passion will find the information useful.
     
  7. harold bain

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    Dan, do you make a reply to every thread you read on the message board?
     
  8. dweiss17

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    Harold:

    More than often or not...a reply is not called for or required by the reader of your post.

    I am more than willing to reply to a post that needs a reply.

    Harold, does a post..."Me too." really require a reply?
     
  9. harold bain

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    Dan, I am just pointing out that most of your threads do not require a reply by everyone who reads them.
     
  10. David S

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    Happy New Year Dan,

    As others have mentioned, many, many folks read the various threads but a very small percentage actually respond with a post.

    I am active in the clock repair forum. Now while I don't have near the experience of some there, I feel I should try and give back, in appreciation for all the information that I have received. Often it will just be a different way to do something based on the equipment and experience that I have. Usually not a lot of feedback. Sometimes folks don't agree with my approach. It doesn't bother me one way or the other. If it works for me and it may help another person that is in the same boat, then fine by me.

    Now regarding your Threads. I have in the past responded to your post, thinking that it would start an interesting conversation with you. However my posts to you usually just go unanswered. Sort of like a one handed hand shake.

    Just keep posting what you think is interesting. If there are many views then that means that people are enjoying our great forum.

    All the best

    David
     
  11. Kevin W.

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    Dan i have commented as well to you, but you dont reply to me, i have many posting and very few replies, its just how the mb is, people are busy and we all have different interests. I do enjoy reading your posts. Sometimes i do not reply if the subject is cats, as i dont like them, but have no problems with people that have them as pets.
     
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    Hey Kevin.... I am a cat lover..They are awesome, low maintenance, independent and only interface with us humans when they want to.....Hmmm why again do I love them? Dunno.

    Happy New Year.

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    Happy New Year David, yes i knew you are a cat lover. I have never liked them, to each his own.
     
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    So why do not about 10 of us members get together and agree each one will make a post far from horology once a week...maybe that would be the start of more posting and response.

    Let me start it...many years ago I had a ten dollar bill that said [I think] payable in GOLD. I know I spent the bill without ever trying to get gold for it. And, recently a coin collector gave me a half dollar coin that was dated on my birth year of 1915.

    It was copied and posted on this Forum.
     
  15. Kevin W.

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    Overall i am more interested in this web site for educational reasons,not really here to socialize, i do that on Facebook. Although Dan i do enjoy reading your postings, you have had a very interesting life.
     
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    Ok Dan,

    Count me as number 1.

    David

    - - - Updated - - -

    Sounds like Kevin may not me number 2...he he

    David
     
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    All the while these much loved cats destroy the environment all around them.
     
  18. David S

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    Indeed Rough...> name?

    However my cat is not a feral cat. It stays indoors and only goes out when we are at the RV park on a harness and leash.

    David
     
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    Roughbarked:

    Did you ever have a cat sit on your lap and look at you with loving eyes.

    Roughbarked: Is man that far advanced of the cat? Did you hear the news about Fort Lauderdale today or yesterday?
     
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    Yeah. I've had a lot of cats lie to me. Small minds are easily fooled.
     
  21. David S

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    As I try to follow this thread I am trying to figure out whose "small minds are easily fooled".

    David
     
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    David:

    Roughthread's post was not worthy of a reply. Cats are the occupiers of millions and millions of homes worldwide.
     
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    #23 David S, Jan 7, 2017
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    Dan,

    I think that Roughbarked posts are indeed worthy of a reply. He /she is referring to all cats as feral cats from what I can tell. Of course we know this to be false. But sometimes false stuff dominates.

    All of our cats have been from shelters and have been neutered / spayed. I have lost count of how many we have had and enjoyed. None of mine have destroyed the environment around them. Well let me clarify..they don't drive gas guzzling cars, keep buying cell phones they don't need... I think you get my drift.

    All the best

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    What may seem true or false depends on fact and all cats that aren't kept inside an enclosure or left in their natural habitat, are feral monsters spread across the world by people ifgnorant of the fact that the cat has you conned.
     
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    So, roughbarked, what is your "animal" of choice that is totally tamed, a pit bull? a snake? dogs pollute more than any other animal urinating on every object they sniff. How nice are kangaroos, emus, ostriches. The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What bad experience did you have as a child that makes you so anti cat?
     
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    There are areas in Australia where feral cats have decimated native fauna and it is understandable why some people have a dislike of cats in general. Personally, I recognise there is a difference between a domestic and a feral cat. However, I also recognise that a domestic cat is only one missed meal away from being feral. All owners of cats or dogs should ensure their animals are secure and not free to roam their neighbourhood. That is how I see it.
     
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    Well interesting for sure. It seems pretty binary. You either love cats or don't. However with all self selected surveys, it is only those with strong opinions that respond.

    But back to Dan's original observation / comment. Why don't more folks respond to his posts and just have a general conversation. Sure this is a horology forum, but surely there is a bit of time... just perhaps a little, to discuss other kinds of things with fellow colleagues that share this space. Of course there is no pressure to join in. But why the negativity? A neutered family pet cat turns into a feral menace?

    When I first joined this forum I felt that there was some comradery. There were people freely sharing different approaches, and discussing the pros and cons...but not all that judgemental. Today not so much from my perspective.

    I think it may be prudent for the moderators to review how our message board is doing and see if it needs some " friendly tweeks".

    All the best

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    David when someone asks for participation in their threads and they dont respond to you, you begin to feel perhaps they are not really interested in your response. I enjoy very much talking about quite a few things, we do not all share the same interests and thats good, as it makes things interesting for all of us. As far as sharing i have shared a fair bit, perhaps not as much as others, i enjoy this mb and the many posters like you David.
     
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    Kevin thank you for picking this up.

    My point is not about whether we share the same interests or have different opions. I am good with that,it is really about how we express our differences.

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    I dont have a lot of spare time and i work odd hours. So my time is very limited, perhaps why my interests here are more on a learning mode than a social mode. I have a horology page on FB and i do enjoy the social interactions i have there. And i do try to come across as a socialble person on this mb.
     
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    This is what I was saying. Thanks Peter.
    I am aware that people in other parts of the world don't seem to realise what their cat does to the environment while they aren't watching it.
    A study done in Australia in the 70's showed that the most well fed "tame" cats still had 17% of their diet consisting of native birds and animals. It is no different in other parts of the world. Keep a cat if you want. This is fine, just don't allow it to run free in an unenclosed space or always have it on a lead.
    I have deep compassion for the welfare of all animals, including the cat. I'm constantly made aware of my effect on the environment.

    I'm not anti-cat as you infer. My animals of choice are all wild and free. This is their place as well. If a kangaroo or emu kicks my mother's chook pen down, I simply rebuild it. I'm living in their space and have to share it. There is no such thing as a tame cat or dog. Hence the term, "bite the hand that feeds it".

    It is simplistic to point out that if you keep an animal out of its natural environment, you are a zookeeper.

    David has pointed out that he does contain his cat or restrain it. I applaud the fact that he does. I was simply pointing out that if the cat was allowed to roam free it will be a mini lion or tiger. Around the world most people don't restrain their cats and dogs. Collectively this adds up to a huge impact on the environment which in effect we are the curators of.

    As for small minds, I was referring to mine. I'm also a sucker for deep loving eyes. I was merely pointing out that snakes can also hypnotize, as does your cat. It doesn't love you, it simply knows when it is on a good wicket.
     
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    Rough..... I wish folks here would use their real name.

    Not only do I enjoy cats, I also enjoy all animals. Especially those in the wild. Besides birds, my favourite go to are snakes and my wife likes frogs. When I was very young, my Mom taught me how to capture garter snakes and hold them and observe them.

    All the best.

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    Thanks to all who engaged in this little discussion about cats or other thoughts on our minds that encompass anything fit to post here.

    May I please remind our readers the Member News and Views was started October 26, 2010 - by me so we may discuss other things than of a horologic nature. My thought is we have done darn well with nearly 300.000 hits, untold postings and replies during the period the MN&V has thrived beyond my wildest dreams…and, I dream pretty good.

    Many people who are keepers of a feline [cat] keep them strictly as a house pet and in the home. My cat Johnnie II has never been outside of the house since she was adopted over eight years ago. In fact, when the doorbell rings or a visitor comes into the house my cat disappears and hides.

    As a cat, her beauty is undeniable.
     

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    It is Peter.
     
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    Thank you Peter.

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