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Sunday Hunting

Keith sent me a PM basically saying why don't you
post a thread about wearing(or running) a Hunting case watch on
Sunday(s) and posting them here in the American Forum. I was reluctant to do it but
decided it was a good idea. The more photos posted on this
forum of varying watches the more that's on the internet and
searchable. Plus I always see something interesting from this
great group of collectors.

This Sunday I'm going to wear an 1896 grade 51 18 size Illinois
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Rob is my "go to guy" on the American side. Excellent choice Rob, for a Sunday carry.
My gold one will have to go to the English side, since it's a Taylor & Co. from the UK,
in an American gold case.

My American collection has one PS Bartlett from 1863 in a 3 ounce coin silver hunter.
I have yet to re-shoot the dial side photo, since I discovered the focal plain of my camera.
Squint a bit, but it's an American Watch Co., 11 Jewel key wind SN# 72688. I will wind
this one up about midnight, along side it's 1834 English counterpart with 17 jewels.

The PSB was serviced by Rob Carter and keeps excellent time.

Thanks again Rob music guy, I look forward to seeing other American hunter cased
watches for Sunday's run.

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Great watch, Rob, and a private label no less!! I look forward to seeing what shows up here.

Keith, great to have a KW to show the diversity of the hunters.

Thanks for posting.
 

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Early hh Taylor stemwind model 2 sn 155911

Fahys coin silver case, it originally had engine turning all over it, but it was worn and although still visible, very hard to photograph . The cap has a nice decorative ring, as does the inside of the the front lid. Fahys makes a nice case!

Perfect watch for a Sunday!

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Maybe either of these `12 size hunters: Rockford grade 340, 21 jewel and a less common
Rockford , 15 jewel Illinois with blue numerals and both in gf cases.

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The hunter that I have been enjoying this Sunday is the private label Newark that I acquired this week. A very well used, yet well cared for, watch. The engine turning on the case is almost gone, replaced by a wonderful patina. Yet, movement and dial are still in great condition.

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Haven't ran this one in a while, and while it's not a valuable case, Mr Eichholz made it perfect for me at www.pocketwatchcaserepair.com. He is absolutely amazing and has done several cases for me.

Ok so it's an elgin MD Ogden stemwinder, part of the set of 6 early stemwinders I've been after for quite a while.

Case is a silveride hunter, I'm guessing from the 1880s. Seriously nice,sturdy case. Not 100 on who made it yet, but it's great!

I do not have many hunters, so this will do for this Sunday hunter day! They can't all be silver and gold!

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Yesterday being Sunday, I skipped church & instead attended an annual antique sale held locally. That behaviour was mandated by this thread, in as much as I just had to procure a nice Sunday hunting carry.

So I found one in the form of an 18-size "Dueber" made by the Hampden company using its Model 2 platform back in 1892. It is lever set with 15 jewels, here are a few shots:

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I especially like that the "Dueber" grade marking was placed on the dial & matches the coloration of the Arabic 5-minute markers in the outer orbit. They look orangey now but were originally red, I guess the enamel has faded over the century & a quarter of the watch's existence. The Keystone yellow gold-filled case has lost some detail on its covers but no brassing is evident.

That the watch sets, winds & runs keeping time was verified. It's now in my queue for servicing, for I won't run it any more until my watchmaker has done his thing.
 

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That is really nice! Box hinge case, dueber model 2, I'm envious! Congrats on your find! Those are such good years for Hampden with all the great movements and corresponding dials! Keystone made some fantastic looking cases as well!

Ive been after a good model two example for a while, and haven't pulled the trigger, but last night I lost an auction for a fantastic Pittsburgh private label, Lafayette grade. Bummer.... it would have been two birds with one stone. Been looking for that particular p.l. for a while as well. Live and learn.

Thanks Vic!

Edit:. Antique sales around here never have great things like that!
 

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That is really nice! Box hinge case, dueber model 2, I'm envious! Congrats on your find! Those are such good years for Hampden with all the great movements and corresponding dials! Keystone made some fantastic looking cases as well!

Ive been after a good model two example for a while, and haven't pulled the trigger, but last night I lost an auction for a fantastic Pittsburgh private label, Lafayette grade. Bummer.... it would have been two birds with one stone. Been looking for that particular p.l. for a while as well. Live and learn.

Thanks Vic!

Edit:. Antique sales around here never have great things like that!
Thanks for your kind words, Rick.

I'm beginning to think I got a good deal on the Dueber. I'm unclear as to whether disclosing my purchase price would violate forum rules as constituting discussing value so I'll stay mum.

You know, I went a bit crazy yesterday & brought home 4 other pocket watches in addition to the Dueber hunting one. If there's any interest, I could post them over the next few days.

Plus I walked away from another half dozen or so nice watches partly due to financial straits & partly due to my already having the same movements in my collection, such as it is. I'm kinda regretting that I declined a fine Hammy 992, telling the dealer that "I already have one of those".
 
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Sounds like you had a great day sir!

I've hit every antique show I could find around the burg.... And haven't found much of anything, you must have went to one Bonanza of a show!
I'm always interested to see what people have found, and what people collect. Post away!
 

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Sounds like you had a great day sir!

I've hit every antique show I could find around the burg.... And haven't found much of anything, you must have went to one Bonanza of a show!
I'm always interested to see what people have found, and what people collect. Post away!
Normally it's a waste of my time to attend antique/vintage sales/shows around here. There's nothing to be found except some garbage wristwatches, usually quartz at that. But this time around there were 2 dealers with some nice pocket watches. I bought 3 from one of them & 2 from the other dealer being the latter's entire stock.

So I'll post the other 4 watches over the next few days in appropriate threads, stay tuned, at least 2 of them you're sure to like ...
 

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Today I went to see a classic western movie as part of a film series at the Autry Museum of the American West* and decided to wear this old Elgin from the 1880s. The case is Dueber's coin silver "Bourbon" style, the movement is an 11-jewel grade no.92. I will wear this one through the weekend.
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* This is a great little museum, located in Los Angeles' Griffith Park, if you have an interest in the history of cowboys, western movies or the art and culture of the West.
 

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Nice Jerry!
Here's another 16s model 3 in service this weekend!

I just finished this yesterday and have been carrying it since. I've been trying to get this grade 4 exactly perfect forever, and I finally hit the nail on the head. (In my opinion anyways)

3 oz Keystone coin case with dustproof band inside.

After trying many different ways of photographing watches, I like my burgundy cloth napkin and the dining room chandelier for light. I do think I need some softer light though. It works great for Gilt, and for showing damaskeen, but the reflection on the case is a bit too much. Especially when I didn't even polish it and it still looks that way.

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So after a bit of a part scare, and Dave's watch parts coming to the rescue, I've managed to get this puppy finished up and running great! It's a 15j, adjusted American watch co. model 57, w.w.co. grade. Dates to 1868. It's been hanging about my room being tested in different positions all week, and today for Sunday hunting it got the road test. It's doing very well! Happy to have it as part of the gang now.

I was hoping to put this up here a while back, but It had some issues to iron out.

Thanks for reading and hope you had a great Sunday!

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Since today is Sunday I decided to add to the Sunday Hunting thread.

I am going to wear this 6 size hunter today Elgin grade 176 circa 1894

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Today I went to see a classic western movie as part of a film series at the Autry Museum of the American West* and decided to wear this old Elgin from the 1880s. The case is Dueber's coin silver "Bourbon" style, the movement is an 11-jewel grade no.92. I will wear this one through the weekend.
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* This is a great little museum, located in Los Angeles' Griffith Park, if you have an interest in the history of cowboys, western movies or the art and culture of the West.
Hi Jerry, I hadn't heard the term "Bourbon style" before. Please tell me, if you can, what its origin is. I assume it refers somehow to the House of Bourbon in Europe, and not to the stuff I drink occasionally. (I've developed a taste for bourbon since my kid moved to Kentucky four years ago.)

Alas, I've got my gold A. P. Walsh pocket chronometer out of the safe with me today, but it is open face, so I've got no hunting case watch pix to post here - and it's foreign, anyway.
 
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Clint, quite a few jewelers imported fusee movements in the 1850's. Here's one of my few
hunter cased watches by IF Pitkin of Buffalo, NY, 1852. The case is hallmarked for 1853.
This is a 16 size hunter (50mm) and a 7J lever.

Hope you post your AP Walsh!!! (Perhaps in thread,Time on the Go).

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Well I was going to put this in time on the go, but since it's Sunday and hunting... Can't pass up the opportunity to slide an early Elgin in the mix.

I just got this back yesterday from Mr Radek who worked his magic on it and it's looking and running fabulous!

This is a later M.D. Ogden, 11 jewels in pairs, and I'm very happy to have it back and it'll be a great companion! Big ol' silver re-case. Perfect every day carry watch!

Have a good Sunday!

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Hi Vivclip, i dont believe its against rules to post what you paid for a watch, s its just what you paid. Very envious of your nice finds and all the other nice hunter case watches. I dont think i have anything smaller than a 18 sz to wear.
 

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It is a case style name used by the Dueber Watch Case Co. I do not know if it had broader use in the industry.
Sliver watch cases from the 1880s
Thanks, Jerry. I wonder what basis Dueber's term has in aesthetic history. I would have called that a "drum style" case. I probably still would. But while more descriptive, from an advertising perspective, "drum style" doesn't have any pazazz.
 

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Hi Vivclip, i dont believe its against rules to post what you paid for a watch, s its just what you paid. Very envious of your nice finds and all the other nice hunter case watches. I dont think i have anything smaller than a 18 sz to wear.
Thanks Kevin.

For the hunting Hampden Dueber in Post #11, I paid $150 Canadian. I've since had it serviced at a cost of $180 which included replacing the seconds hand with one matching the large hands, as well as fabricting a set lever spring to replace the one that was broken.

This 18s behemoth is an impressive Sunday wear, so I think
 
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That sounds reasonable to pay for the Hampden.I have a big key wind hunter, Swiss that i really like wearing, but its so heavy.
 

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I figured I would continue the thread. Taking my son Henry fishing today, and I will be wearing this Waltham PS Bartlett SN 637030 that I picked up a few years ago. It is in a beautiful gold filled case, marked with a crown and 18 symbol. Though it looks like GW Ladd's kind of case, it is not marked with his patent info...

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Nice Waltham

Have fun fishing with your son Henry I’m sitting with my own son Henry having lunch


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I had been casually looking for a Railway, and just couldn't pass this one up. It looks fantastic, and has a really nice Dueber gold filled hunting case. It has the anchor and serpent trademark. The Movement is a Springfield marked Railway with a Teske regulator, so it fit my checklist. I took it with me to Chapter 37 meeting for the presentation last week, and am wearing it today. Just a really well built watch and case, all around. I had a hard time getting a shot of the case detail, so sorry for the blah case picture, it looks so much better in person.

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I'm going hunting(hunting case watch) this morning with a grade 176 6s pendant set from circa 1894
I'm Just putting the chain on it now and setting the time. I don't have a problem carrying a 6s they are
a great size watch. This one is in a beautiful case and the way the movement looks is why I collect watches.

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I think I'm going to try and keep this thread alive
and wear a hunting case watch today. It's a small 0 size Elgin Circa 1899-1900.
Hope some others are wearing them today(or looking at them).

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Whenever I wear jeans, I pick out a watch to carry for the day. For the last three days, it has been this 4 oz coin silver Elgin HC, WH Ferry grade, serial number 71171. What I particularly like about this watch is the contrast between the heavy patina of the front inner case, versus the bright clean movement. I wonder how many years of exposure it took to get the silver so blackened.

For a very old watch, it is only off four minutes from when I first set it Thursday morning (and it's now Saturday evening). Great to see this old technology still do the job. Everyone have a great weekend!

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I just wound up my circa 1901 Model 1899 Waltham American Watch Co. bridge model hunter. Sixteen-size AWCO bridge models are fairly scarce, but this particular example is one of only around six known examples with spotted damascening. It is marked "21 jewels" but actually has 23. I re-cased it in a 14k A.W.W.Co. case. It has the correct "Hull" dial.

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I wear a vest with a suit, sport coat and tie everyday at work, so I usually wear the nicer pieces during the week. On the weekends it's still a vest but a lot more casual.
Today its a 10j Keystone dustproof in a Dueber coin silver case.
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Is it my eyes/monitor, or is that a celluloid dial?
 

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Is it my eyes/monitor, or is that a celluloid dial
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It is genuine homogeneous colloidal dispersion of nitrocellulose and camphor := or as commonly called, Celluloid. It had swollen a little and my watchmaker was not initially happy with my choice to keep it, requiring tedious efforts to get hands to fit under the glass but worked out in the end and keeps time well enough to wear for a day.
When it goes for its next COA, a Jim Haney supplied correct keystone second hand will be installed. Also I have since found the mica, so that too will be done.
It was the case that initially got me to go after it but the whole package turned out to be a fun example and is apropos since I live in the Keystone State.
Thanks for the interest.
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Joe, is it a Dueber case? I think that's what I see in the original post.

As a sidebar, the watch in my avatar has a celluloid dial, too. :)
 
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It is genuine homogeneous colloidal dispersion of nitrocellulose and camphor := or as commonly called, Celluloid. It had swollen a little and my watchmaker was not initially happy with my choice to keep it, requiring tedious efforts to get hands to fit under the glass but worked out in the end and keeps time well enough to wear for a day.
When it goes for its next COA, a Jim Haney supplied correct keystone second hand will be installed. Also I have since found the mica, so that too will be done.
It was the case that initially got me to go after it but the whole package turned out to be a fun example and is apropos since I live in the Keystone State.
Thanks for the interest.
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It has been an abnormally warm winter in the Mid-Atlantic; crocus blooming in February, daffodils up 8 inches. No snow means no salt and today is 60 degrees; so a very early ride after hibernation of my other distraction. My uncle bought this new in LA and I was fortunate to be his favorite nephew.
So on with the vest and a Illinois PL from nearby Lancaster, PA. Samuel Zook was a major jeweler in that city.
Circa 1896 Illinois Getty, M4, 16S, 11J, lever set, SN1302907
Good hunting to you!
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