$ Stone Crystal Movements by American Watch Co.

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  1. Mary Rohs

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    What is the consensus on values for these watches in original cases?

    4 size:
    -used
    -mint

    16 size model 72:
    -used
    -mint

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    Mary Rohs
     
  2. richiec

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    Why, do you have a couple of these? The last price guide had them between $18-70,000depending on condition, can't say I ever saw one for auction so no price comparisons.
     
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    One of each passed through Jones-Horan last year. The 16-size brought $21,500 and the 4-size brought $8,000. Search their sales archive for "Waltham Crystal Plate" and you will find them and be able to see condition, etc.
     
  4. Jon Hanson

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    These have dropped big time, especially the smaller sizes. The problem of them lies in 1. most of the larger size are damaged, 2.most of the smaller ones are re-cased and/or damaged or with relaxed cocks.

    Large sized ones have brought over 100K when perfect.
     
  5. Mary Rohs

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    The large size you wrote are 100,000 and up. How about the undamaged small size values?

    How many survived small / large undamaged. Conceivably, 10 of each?
     
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    Hi, there are many more small ones than large--maybe 30 or so small ones. I have seen re-cased

    "off condition" small ones sell for 6, 8 or 10K.

    What do you have, serial number, cased?
     
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    COMPUTER ERROR!]

    I wrote, "These have dropped big time, especially the smaller sizes. The problem of them lies in 1. most of the larger size are damaged, 2.most of the smaller ones are re-cased and/or damaged or with relaxed cocks.

    Large sized ones have brought over 100K when perfect."

    NOT "relaxed"......the word is recased! This means purposely cased up or "switched" into a better case!
     
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    I think the OP may be interested in buying one rather than selling one, but wants to know how much to pay.
     
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    #9 Jon Hanson, Mar 24, 2019
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    FYI "mint" is a flavor, not a condition.

    I own several unused ones, but these are extremely rare especially the lg. ones.

    I know of small sized ones in unused condition selling for up to 20K.

    An important question might be, " how much does Ms Mary R want to spend?"

    Also, it is VERY advisable that she uses an expert on these when considering a purchase.

    Jon

    PS Mine are not for sale and permanently reside in the WGC.
     

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