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A customer brought in this one yesterday and gave it to me. Nice project. What can you tell me about it?

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Not sure what there is that can be said. Thomaston on both the label and the 8-day No. 44 movement would place the clock 1865 or later. The printers' names on the label (Case, Lockwood, and Brainard) also place it after 1865 (per Paul Heffner's piece on dating ST clocks in Tran's introduction to the third edition of Seth Thomas clocks).

This particular style of steeple (Sharp Gothic) is shown three times in Tran, from the catalogues for 1879 (21 inches high), 1900 (19.5 inches high), and 1915 (19.5 inches high). ST no longer used the No. 44 movement beginning about 1901, so I would discount a post-1900 date. The 1900 illustration is listed as Sharp Gothic VP (visible pendulum), which does not match the clock you posted. The 1879 illustration shows a similar dial set up, particularly the position of the winding arbor holes. That's not to say that your clock is necessarily from ca. 1879, but it may not be far off. I think that's enough waffling. :rolleyes:

Let me retract my statement about the No. 44 movement. Apparently versions of it appear in the 1907 catalogue. So, I don't know that I can necessarily rule out a post 1900 date, though my feeling is that it is earlier.
 
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Willie X

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The stop work fingers have been removed from your #44 movement but this isn't a big deal. The #44 movement IMO is one of the best high production movements ever made.

I have an S-T clock stamped 1902. This clock has a dial with the rate adjuster hole punched high and low, to fit both the old #44 movement and the #89 movement which replaced the #44. I don't think this is an all inclusive date but the change was certainly being made in 1902.

Good luck, Willie X
 

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A customer brought in this one yesterday and gave it to me. Nice project. What can you tell me about it?

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Did his dog bury it in the backyard?

It’s pretty much all there. Start with a good cleaning. For the case, I use a product Spuce It Up with some amazing results. Yes, may need a refinish.

Needs an upper glass. The lower is a pretty amazing survivor from what I can see.

The dial may respond to gentle cleaning.

ST steeple clocks, in my experience, are NOT nearly as common as those of other makers.

Worth fixing up.

RM
 

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Thanks, Willie and RM. it does look like the dog buried it. Quite a project! Willie, I thought the stops were missing too but looking closely, they are the kind with the single tooth little stop thingy on the winding arbors. I believe it’s all there. Untouched. That’s rare!

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Thanks, Willie and RM. it does look like the dog buried it. Quite a project! Willie, I thought the stops were missing too but looking closely, they are the kind with the single tooth little stop thingy on the winding arbors. I believe it’s all there. Untouched. That’s rare!

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Yes complete stop works are in fact present.

That's often not the case.

Good luck and share the final results.

RM
 
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Did his dog bury it in the backyard?
I like the ones the dog buried. It's always good to see what the after is compared to the before, when you get it all done.
And, looks like it's all there. You don't have to make a decision on the case about preservation. It can easily be glued and refinished without reservation.
 
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