smiths granddaughter clock

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  1. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

    Apr 15, 2012
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    hi
    my grand mother has kindly given me her granddaughter clock
    pics attached we are trying to find out a model and some info

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    the clock still has the origional wiring connector onto the motor as far as i can tell and it seems to keep perfect time and chimes as it should (westminster)
    we belive its smiths as it has a smiths mechanism
    it has a big cast weight in the bottom
    you have to start the clock by moving a lever
    i can do more photos if need be
    any help would be appreciated age etc as my gran is curious she brought it for £100 35 years ago
    thanks
    John
     
  2. eskmill

    eskmill Registered User
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    Welcome to the Message Board. You are correct John. It's a Smiths with their chiming "Sectric" movement, very similar in principle to the US made GE Telechron electric chiming, striking clock that uses no springs to operate the chime and strike trains and instead uses a "jockey" mechanism to engage the chime and strike trains with the synchronous electric motor.

    The little detail about manually starting the motor suggests that the clock is an early model as later made examples used a self-starting electric motor when mains electrical power became more reliable.
     
  3. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    thank you for that
    do these clocks have model numbers that can be traced for further info?
    we keep looking on the net but cannot find anything similar
    cheers
     
  4. jmclaugh

    jmclaugh Registered User

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    I'm not well up on electric clocks at all and you may get more responses in the forum specifically for such clocks.

    The Sectric trademark is said to have been used by Smiths from early 1937. There is an example of a mantle clock illustrated in Shenton's Collectable Clocks with instructions that includes the model number 259, it has a Sectric movement which is similar but not the same as the one in your clock.
     
  5. mrtuggles

    mrtuggles Registered User

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    THe Model of this Clock would appear to be an ADEN - 1935/1937 it came with a Sectric or 14 day strike movement.On checking your picture yours looks like its a Synchronous chime movement, this are illustrated in the 1933 catalogue by Smiths.A good book charts the develpment of these movements and is called "Birth of the British Synchronous Motor Clock" by Pam and Peter Wotton.
    Hope this helps

    Steve.
     
  6. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    thank you for that
    is there anywhere to get a copy of the smiths 1933 catalogue
    regards
    john
     
  7. Spaceman Spiff

    Spaceman Spiff Registered User

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    Hi, John.
    I agree with Steve--your clock appears to be the Aden model from 1935-37. A verrrrry tiny picture of it is shown on page 79 of Smiths Domestic Clocks by Barrie Smith, 2nd ed., 2008.
    Cheers,
     
  8. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    Hi.
    Been a long time but my poor clock is in the wars. The chime isn't working, it looks like gear pin has sheared off. I contacted a clock repairer who has refused to do it because it's to tricky . Does anyone have any ideas? This was handed down to me from my grandma who sadly passed away yesterday and I'm desperate to get it repaired but need someone I can trust as you would understand as it's extremely sentimental.
    Thanks in advance
     
  9. Chris Radek

    Chris Radek Registered User
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    Hi John, I don't do clocks, but I wanted to say I'm so sorry to hear about your grandma. Peace and best wishes to you.
     
  10. Spaceman Spiff

    Spaceman Spiff Registered User

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    Hi, John. It would be helpful to know where you lived, if you hope to receive suggestions as to who might be able to work on your clock.
     
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  11. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    Cheers thank you.
     
  12. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    Sorry yeah I'm in Northamptonshire Rushden
     
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  13. jpbroad1970

    jpbroad1970 Registered User

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    Good afternoon,

    I've found a watchmaker and clock restorer in Stamford who are going to repair my clock for me. The unfortunate side is it's going to be £1200 to £1500 pounds. Probably far more than the clock is worth but for sentimental reasons it needs to be done.
     

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