Show off some of your Getty Illinois watches

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Illinois Getty model

"The main 16 size Illinois model from 1896 to 1913 with over 400,000 produced. Made in 20 different grades and jewel counts ranging from 11 to 25." Fred Hansen NAWCC #109682
Before I knew what a Getty Illinois was, I would see these movements and say
to myself how nice I thought they looked. I especially liked the crescent shaped click.
They are very unique looking vs other American designs of the same period.

1900 Illinois - Getty- Grade 186 - 17j -16s

One of the identifying features is the single ratchet wheel(and crescent click)

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I only have one Getty. It is an uncommon 19j Grade 175 hunter, circa 1906. I bought the movement from Fred Hansen who I recall saying that only 60 of these hunter movements were made, along with 40 19j Grade 175 OFs and about 100019j Grade 175 OFs with three-finger bridges for Burlington. I bought the movement because I had rescued a beautiful 14k Dubois case from scrappers. It needed a new tenant.

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A bit of a ho-hom Grade 183 but I had never seen a 16s Canadian dial before and it came in a SIR WM. PITT 25 Year case.

As I found out here on NAWCC "Sir William Pitt" was registered to James A. Pitt of Montreal in 1907 Help with identifying pocket watch] This Thread [/url].

Further digging reveals James A. Pitt was a wholesale jeweller in Montreal in 1912. (Early Canada Online)

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Fred... you want to tell the 'story'...?? I do have saved one of yours... but feel you should post it....


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Fred... you want to tell the 'story'...??
Someone tell the story.....;)


Rob
 
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I have my two favorites.

A 15 jewel grade 183 from about 1905
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A 19 jewel grade 185 Burlington Special from around 1909, I do have it's original Burlington case but it just needed to show off its movement so I carry it in a display case.
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terry hall

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A 21 jewel Sangamo grade Burlington is a hard one to beat Terry.
i don't know about that... we've had some great sit-downs / show-n-tells that left me boggeled.....

That 179 of Bryan's is not bad either (understatement).... :)
 

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They are all fantastic watches.
Here are a couple more. Not the best of shots but should get the point across that I do favor TTs.

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We have some of the top Getty collectors in the country posting to this thread, and I don't care to attempt to compete with them, but I'll still say that this thread deserves a 189.

I know this is pretty boring in terms of rarity, but it does have a special place in any Getty collection.

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Here is my Getty Sangamo. Poor photo but too lazy to reshoot.

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I have one close to it, I hope it's not the "pig"

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Your two-toning is good, which is more than can be said about a lot of these.

It's interesting to compare the grade marking on yours to Bryan's, though. Bryan's is in the same-rather elaborate-font as the rest of the markings.

I almost wonder if yours was a later addition by the factory, whether from stale inventory or from a trip back. I'd be interested in seeing other watches close in S/N(i.e. within 10). Yours and Bryan's are far enough apart that I don't think they can be compared.

That's just another thing that makes Illinois-IMO-one of the most interesting and enigmatic companies to collect.
 

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As noted by Bill Meggers, the 189 was the highest quality movement made in 16 size model 4&5 (Gettys). Even though it was 21 ruby jewels it was priced slightly higher than a 23 ruby jewel Sangamo, and 20% higher than a 21 ruby jewel Sangamo!
 

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apologize in advance for the lack of quality of images... but here is a 'range' of movement quality in this set here....

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I was hoping someone would post a 181. Still on my want list.
I always wonder how many 181s and 189s get passed on. They're both pretty non-descript unless you know Illinois well enough to jump on the "21 Ruby Jewel" marking or take a close look and see how beautifully finished they are.

Perhaps one of the other collectors(179 if you're still reading :) ) can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall the only way to actually ID a 181(as distinct from a 189) is by the serial number.
 

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Believe me I have tried for many years, and I can find no difference . As far as I know, only by serial number.
 

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I saw one 181 on Ebay, but lost to Fred, I believe. Yes, it did look just like the 189, just like the 187 & 178 are twins, but I look up all 187 and 189 I see just in case.
 
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terry hall

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Fred E. simply WoW.... and run id as a lower grade.... " the watches tell the story" fer sure....

181, know of one, don't have image, not in my accumulation... but in an accumulation of 'pairs' of marked and unmarked 189...

and yes, serial it the identifier on these beautifully finished examples...

Fred E.. please present the story on the stripe examples...
 

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Will do with the striped Sangamos - but I’m on the road for a few more days so will have to post when I’m home again.
 

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It has been my practice for a while to try to buy all numbered or unmarked Getty's that say "Ruby Jewels." It is hard to see how you can go wrong with that. :)

Of course I do not have enough money to spend to put myself in any real danger.
 

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It has been my practice for a while to try to buy all numbered or unmarked Getty's that say "Ruby Jewels." It is hard to see how you can go wrong with that. :)
That's a safe thing to do with any Illinois watch regardless of size or model.
 

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