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Im looking at what a person describes as a Seth Thomas 18 size maiden lane. In consulting Shuggarts book I see it is not marked Maiden Lane and does not have the indentation under the balance wheel indicating the double roller.

This person isnt responding to my queries.

So, could it be a Maiden Lane?

Bill
 
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Im looking at what a person describes as a Seth Thomas 18 size maiden lane. In consulting Shuggarts book I see it is not marked Maiden Lane and does not have the indentation under the balance wheel indicating the double roller.

This person isnt responding to my queries.

So, could it be a Maiden Lane?

Bill
 

John Pavlik

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Bill,

Many assume all model 5 Seth Thomas's are Maiden Lanes..I believe they are all supposed to be marked, and if not, are a different grade.. The one on ebay I do not believe is a Maiden Lane..
 

Ken Emmerson

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I agree with John...If every model 5 was considered a Maiden Lane
there would be about 50,000 Maiden Lanes, which would not rate
them with a three star rarity...My only problem, is finding how
many jewels MY Maiden Lane has...I guess I'll have to disassemble
it...
 

Kent

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I believe that if it is not marked "Maiden Lane" than it is not a Maiden Lane grade.

Having said that, John has come close to the point. A number of people refer to the Seth Thomas model 5 as the Maiden Lane model, much like the Waltham model '92 is called the Vanguard model and the 18-size Elgin model 9 is called the Veritas model. However, both Waltham and Elgin actually refered to those models by their respective names. I don't recall seeing any Seth Thomas literature that actually referred to their model 5 as the Maiden Lane model. And, of course, sellers get additional attention by using the name "Maiden Lane."

Ken:

Welcome to the NAWCC Pocket Watch Message Board!

When you find out the number of jewels, please let us know the serial number and number of jewels. I think that all 24 and 25 jewel Maiden Lanes are marked tht way, but that 17 and 21 jewel versions aren't.

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Ken Emmerson

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Kent, I'll do that just as soon as I get the info...On the other
matter of the Maiden Lane...not Maiden Lane, is there some
authority, that could give a defenitive answer? If someone talked
to the folks at the "Cooksey Shugart" maybe they could add the
word MARKED, to next years book...I don't know...does anyone
have a suggestion:???:
Ken
 

LloydB

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Actually, the word 'marked' does appear,
the problem is that Shugart doesn't list
anything *except* the Maiden lane model.

I was looking at the material on one of
Greg Frauenhoff's pages yesterday:

http://members.aol.com/gfrauen10/researchmainpage.html

and one of the 1907-08 catalogs lists
a *range* of the Seth Thomas Model 5
types from 7-jewel on up, by number.
The Maiden Lane is listed quite seperately.

http://members.aol.com/gfrauen/seth9.jpg
http://members.aol.com/gfrauen/seth7.jpg

I thought it kind of amusing that the illustrations and the printed descriptions
have them as PENDANT set, while 2 of the movement cuts clearly show the setting
lever tip, above the balance bridge.

BTW, can anyone assist with balance parts?

LloydB (corrected to clarify)
 

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