Sessions Click Spring

[Jordan1939]

Ok

The one shown in post # 4 is working fine.

RC

thank you

 

[T.Cu]

Well, thanks guys, lots of great information about clicks. I need this information.
I have had one "explode" in my hand, and man that was painful! I had to go in and lie down, I felt faint! And I'm usually pretty tough, but wow! (Especially as my hands were really cold, you know how that is when you bang your hand when it's real cold?) My finger had about ten small cuts, was numb in some spots but hurt like the devil in other spots, and was blue and swollen, and I had a "bone bruise" that lasted for months.
This was a while back, but if I remember correctly it was a double whammy, the click itself was broken in two, like the picture above, but I think the rivet also flew out. An experience to be avoided. It was a Waterbury "Black walnut extra gothic pillar" model where the other click had already been replaced. Shoulda known.

 

[Jordan1939]

Ok thank you Mr croswell did you use the rivet that came with the click?

 

[R. Croswell]

Ok thank you Mr croswell did you use the rivet that came with the click?

As mentioned somewhere in this thread, the rivets that come with the clicks may fit the click, but seldom fit the hole in the main wheel spoke. I just make my own rivets. This is a different style click but the idea is the same. I usually ream the hole in the wheel spoke using the smallest Bergeon bushing reamer that will cut, then I ream the hole un the click with the next larger size reamer. I know exactly what size each reamer is and make the rivet accordingly. You want a snug fit in the wheel spoke and a loose running fit in the click. Make the shoulder part just a bit longer than the thickness of the click. You can then peen the rivet tightly in the wheel spoke and not pinch the click.

RC

 

[Jordan1939]

As mentioned somewhere in this thread, the rivets that come with the clicks may fit the click, but seldom fit the hole in the main wheel spoke. I just make my own rivets. This is a different style click but the idea is the same. I usually ream the hole in the wheel spoke using the smallest Bergeon bushing reamer that will cut, then I ream the hole un the click with the next larger size reamer. I know exactly what size each reamer is and make the rivet accordingly. You want a snug fit in the wheel spoke and a loose running fit in the click. Make the shoulder part just a bit longer than the thickness of the click. You can then peen the rivet tightly in the wheel spoke and not pinch the click.

RC

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Thank you i don't have the tools to make my own rivets that's the problem, and have never done it before.

 

[shutterbug]

You might have enough Get a non-shouldered rivet from your local hardware. It needs to fit the hole in the click fairly loosely. Then measure from the broad end the thickness of your click. Use a file to reduce the size below that mark until it fits in the plate hole. Then cut it off about 1mm longer then the thickness of the plate and click together. If it's not perfectly round, it's OK. You'll insert the rivet and then 'peen' the narrow end until it spreads out and secures the click in the hole in the plate. Use light glancing blows and don't be in a hurry.

 

[Jordan1939]

You might have enough Get a non-shouldered rivet from your local hardware. It needs to fit the hole in the click. Then measure from the broad end the thickness of your plate and the click together. Use a file to reduce the size below that mark until it fits in the plate hole. Then cut it off about 1mm longer then the length of the plate and click. If it's not perfectly round, it's OK. You'll insert the rivet and then 'peen' the narrow end until it spreads out and secures the click in the hole in the plate. Use light glancing blows and don't be in a hurry.

Would that be making a shoulder rivet?

 

[R. Croswell]

Would that be making a shoulder rivet?

In a crude sort of way, yes. Another option is to use the shoulder rivet that comes with the click and drill a new hole of the correct size on another spoke. There really is no way to do quality work without the right tools.

 

[Jordan1939]

In a crude sort of way, yes. Another option is to use the shoulder rivet that comes with the click and drill a new hole of the correct size on another spoke. There really is no way to do quality work without the right tools.

thank you do you make rivets for others or just for you?

 

[shutterbug]

Note: I revised my post above a little. I had the measurements wrong
Note the quoted post, which I did not change, to see the difference.

 

[Jordan1939]

Note: I revised my post above a little. I had the measurements wrong
Note the quoted post, which I did not change, to see the difference.

we're human it's ok to make mistakes