Schatz, What is it?

Ken M

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Before I state my first impression of this clock, I want to hear what others have to say. It's a Schatz, that's all I know.
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You've done it again, Ken! :chuckling: Can we see some more pictures of it, like the back and the escapement?
 

Ken M

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All I have is what is on the auction site. I won it, $4. Thought it was cool, a little obnoxious, but cool.
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This looks like a skeletonized single-train version of the Gufa pendulum movement, which is very similar to the one with the platform escapement you've been battling.
 

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Yeah, that last one sure threw you some curveballs!
 

Ken M

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I've failed on the last two, the Gufa and the Huber I just got. Neither are running, I need a win.
 

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Roger that, brother.
 

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I don't know what it is. I was listed as "Schatz anniversary clock 11"". So it might not be Schatz. I'm wondering if Schatz ever made one of these? Never seen one. Looking forward to seeing it up close.
 

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I have a reprint of the Schatz 75-year catalog and no skeleton clocks are shown in it.

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I ignored this pic because it is so blurry, but I can make out the anchor, maybe others can see more of it. Looks like what I'm used to, nothing fancy.
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And the label on the bottom, some kind of collectible I guess.
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I wonder if that label is from the Heritage Alpine Table Lace on a table rather than anything to do with the clock. It will be interesting to see when the clock arrives. The mystery continues...
 
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I wonder if that label is from the Heritage Alpine Table Lace on a table rather than anything to do with the clock. It will be interesting to see when the clock arrives. The mystery continues...
Two things I know, it's not an anniversary clock and it's not a Schatz, that narrows it down.
 
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Ken M

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It will be here Friday. I'm really wondering what's in the box. The anticipation. This is what showed in their catalog
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So did someone that knows nothing about clocks just assume because it was with another Schatz and a Schatz leaflet, that it was a Schatz? That's what I'm hoping. If I get a Schatz, I'm going to be really disappointed.
 

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Might have just been a cut-n-paste error. :?| The better auction sites give multiple views of each lot. I bid on something at an auction a while back and sent in some questions before bidding started.

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There are multiple views of the item. On another auction site, there was a Horus clock pictured, but the description was some furniture. I asked them if I was bidding on the clock or the furniture, they said the clock. No one bid, it was relisted, I don't know what happened to it. I found the clock later for a couple thousand. Should have bid the $100, but I wasn't sure what I was bidding on. Here, it was only a few bucks, so I'm taking a chance.
 

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Made in Lichtenstein. The plates are hard plastic, everything else is metal, wood, or glass. It's still pretty cool. Wish I had the skills and equipment to make some brass plates. I'll get this straightened out, looks like the Waterbury is going to take some time.
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Hooray, not a Schatz, but at least it's the clock you bid on.
Did the dome arrive safely? Is the dial metal? Looking forward to learning more about your latest addition.
 

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It's might not be plastic. It was written on the box, but that was for something else. So I don't know what it is. Really cool clock though., keeping time and everything.
 

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Glad you've got a winner there, Ken! You've had a run of tough luck lately!
 

Ken M

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Thanks. It's been mostly operator error. Now I have this Waterbury, as you know. That's ok, learning new tricks. Paid a lot for the Waterbury, for me anyway. Another learning tool.
 

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Made in Lichtenstein.
I have never before heard of a clock made in Liechtenstein. Where is this mark? Could you show a photo?

The plates are hard plastic
They don't look like plastic in your photos, but a tiny nick with a file should be able to make sure?

It's certainly an interesting clock, whatever it is.

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That label on the bottom I believe is for the clock. It says Heritage Imports, Made in Lichtenstein. It was just hanging on and all curled up and tearing. I put scotch tape over it to preserve it. The edges look like stamped plastic to me, could be aluminum, maybe others know different, welcome all opinions.
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Sure, it stopped during a video! It's been running fine on the table, it has a problem with my bench. Anyway, got a loud tic-toc and a little ding.
 

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That label on the bottom I believe is for the clock. It says Heritage Imports, Made in Lichtenstein.
Personally, I don't think the label has anything to do with the clock.

As always, I may be wrong.

JTD
 

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That label on the bottom I believe is for the clock. It says Heritage Imports, Made in Lichtenstein. It was just hanging on and all curled up and tearing. I put scotch tape over it to preserve it. The edges look like stamped plastic to me, could be aluminum, maybe others know different, welcome all opinions.
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Thank you for the additional pictures!

As I mentioned above, I think the label is totally unrelated to the clock, other than possibly by association with a lace table runner. An internet search of the bolded words below returns many examples of lace tablecloths, runners and decorative items produced by the company.

I wonder if that label is from the Heritage Alpine Table Lace on a table rather than anything to do with the clock. It will be interesting to see when the clock arrives. The mystery continues...
 

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You may be right. But the sticky on the label, old and dried now, looked original. But as you say, not related to the clock, except by association. There is nothing that I can see so far on the clock that might identify it's origins.
 

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You may be right. But the sticky on the label, old and dried now, looked original. But as you say, not related to the clock, except by association. There is nothing that I can see so far on the clock that might identify it's origins.
I would throw that label away - it just got stuck there at some point and is a red herring for any future owner.

Liechtenstein is the world's biggest exporter of false teeth, but I don't think they ever produced a clock.

Just my opinon.

JTD
 

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And, if the search for the name on the label is any indication, apparently lace tablecloths. :) Joking aside, it does look like textiles is a pretty sizable industry, too.
 

Ken M

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kept looking at this thing next to my other clocks, and it's really dull. Can't see it. So I scraped a little. It's brass. So I thought it was dirty, tried a little Windex, no help. Started to take it apart to "brighten" it up. This thing is brass painted dark bronze, with a black dial. It tics really loud, otherwise I wouldn't know it's there.
 

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