Rowlands Grandfather - Albany NY

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  1. TheTickTockDoc

    TheTickTockDoc Registered User
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    Can anyone provide information on this clock....or clockmaker? I am not able to provide any pics of the movement at this time. Thanks in advance for your kind help and expertise.

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    Rich

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  2. Dick C

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  3. new2clocks

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    Henry Rowlands was a retailer / jeweler in Albany, New York, so he is not the maker of your tall case clock.

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    Pictures of the movement will (hopefully) determine the maker of your clock.

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  4. Ticktocktime100

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    Hi,

    A fabulous clock. It would be more accurate to call it a jeweler’s regulator. I’d also love to see the movement, and wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be French. The enamel dial, Bréguet style hands and especially the position of the winding holes reminds me of a type of Morbier comtoise movement, obviously with complications as there is a third winding hole. Perhaps for quarter-striking? Hope you get to see the movement to reveal all!

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  5. brian fisher

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    pendulum doesnt seem to match the cabinet
     
  6. TheTickTockDoc

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    I was considering purchasing this clock......looked at it...the hood did not come off...or I couldn't figure how to access the movement in the short amount of time I had with the clock. It wasn't running. They wanted around $1,000 for it. The back of the hood and back middle part of the cabinet were finished and decorated like the front. The pendulum looked hand made...and not by a jeweler. Some pretty big cracks in the wood on the front. Probably shouldn't have let it get away......but...there's always another clock. Thanks for the information. Rich
     
  7. lylepete

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    To me it looks like a marriage. Why are there two winding holes in the bezel. Most of the jeweler's regulator Ive seen almost always have a second sweep hand or seconds bit. I would hold off untill you can see whats inside. My guess just from the pictures it was a time and strike clock it stopped working and someone put in a time only movement. I like the case though.
    William
     
  8. lylepete

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    The more i think about it. I bet at one time it had two faces and was possibly use in a train station or something of that nature. If it were a gf or jewlers there would be no reason to make the back look like the front. I remember working on a double dial clock a long time ago. It had a double spring movement that wound from one side and the other side has a spot in the dial to adjust the time. It was a real pain, but fun to see
    William
     
  9. Steven Thornberry

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    There are three winding holes, and I think I can make out three winding arbors.
     
  10. lylepete

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    I wondering about that, wasnt to sure. If that is the case i would bet the middle one adjust the hands and the two other winds the time.
    William
     
  11. brian fisher

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    well, someone bought it. she has it posted as sold.

    i do not think it is a jeweler's regulator as the pendulum would indicate. the chances are pretty good that the movement was a 3 train morbier judging by the winding hole configuration as ticktocktime mentions above.

    here is an example:

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    the movement and dial could be original to this cabinet. i think the case looks french. i would guess late 19th c. the pendulum, though, seems like an enigma to me. it does not seem to even come close to looking like it would match the glass opening.
     

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