Roskell Fake???

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  1. GKSFLORIDA

    GKSFLORIDA New Member

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    #1 GKSFLORIDA, Jan 13, 2018
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    Sorry these are not great photos but can anyone tell if this is a likely fake?

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    YES WOULD AN ADMINISTRATOR MOVE THIS TO THE WATCH SECTION - SORRY NEWBIE!
     
  2. novicetimekeeper

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    I can tell you it isn't a clock. Perhaps somebody will move it to a more appropriate place, but I always assume swiss when I look at those.
     
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    I am moving this to:
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    Hi GKSFLORIDA, and welcome,

    I think your doubts about this are well justified, as it is as Nick has suggested a Swiss watch with a rather modest cylinder movement. Robert Roskell's name was widely used on various Swiss watches like this with the intent to deceive. However, with a simple clean and overhaul, and a replacement seconds hand, the watch should be an attractive and quite usable piece.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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  5. GKSFLORIDA

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    Appreciate the thoughts!
     
  6. MartyR

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    Welcome to the board, GKS :)

    Certainly the watch was not made by Robert Roskell, but it is just possible that the firm of Roskell imported the complete watch fromSwitzerland to sell it retail ... something which many English firms did in their later years.

    Roskell was a good quality maker, and this is a low-to-medium quality watch. As far as I can see the case is not gold. The engraving of Roskell's name and other information on the cuvette (in your second photo) is cheaply done, and the style of the lettering of the name is what I would describe as "mock Olde English" o_O All of that suggests to me that Roskell had nothing to do with the watch, and therefore the name was used to deceive potential buyers - Robert Roskell was indeed one of several English makers who were widely "faked".

    The squat style of the pendant suggests a date of around 1830-50 to me, and as Graham has said, with a good clean this is likely a serviceable watch :)
     
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    Clearly Swiss, but a very handsome watch nonetheless! I'd definitely try to repair this one!
     
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