Removing Hermle 341-20 from a Howard Miller case

oldetymes

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Folks - I have a Howard Miller model # 613-277 that I'm replacing the movement on. Having a devil of a time getting at the extended hex nuts that hold the dial feet and movement. Has anyone gone to the trouble of removing the caseback to gain access to these hex nuts? I'm not crazy about removing it,but it seems the only plausible way at this point.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

thx.Dave @ OldeTymes
 

LaBounty

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Hey Dave-

I looked up the Howard Miller model 613-277 in an effort to give you accurate advice but... the 613-277 is a quartz anniversary clock :). So, about all I can tell you is that if there are philips style screws holding the back on it should come off fairly easily. That would give you access to the movement and make removing it fairly simple.

Hope that helps!
 

oldetymes

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Hi Dave - my mistake, the HM Model # is 613227. The feedback I'm getting off the clocksgroup listserv is that the dial is attached with two-sided tape. I'll give that a whirl.

thx. Dave
 

LaBounty

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Hey Dave-

The 613-227 is the "Cherry Creek" wall clock. It appears from the picture in the HM book that the whole front swings open to give you access to the dial and that the movement is mounted to the back board.

This type of clock usually has the dial mounted to the movement with clips or taper pins. Once the dial is off you should be able to get to the mounting screws and remove the movement. I doubt the dial is held on with tape as I don't see a wooden dial facade for it to be stuck to.

Here's an image from the HM catalog...

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Hope that helps!
 

harold bain

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Similar clocks that I have worked on, the movement has 4 pillars through the back of the clock, with nuts and washers holding the movement to the case. If yours is like this, take the nuts off, and pull the movement off the case. Then the dial can be removed.
 

oldetymes

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Hi Dave - you've got the right model HM. However, it turns out the dial was in fact attached with double sided tape. My wife's hair dryer on hot and a long thin knife got underneath it easily and lifted off the dial. Then I could easily get at the screws. Appears to be the original assembly. What will they think up next :)

thx for the responses.

Dave @OldeTymes
 

Len Lataille

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"What will the think of next?"

Anyway to make it cheaper and more difficult to repair. Why should HM care? If it fails during the guaranty, it's cheaper to scrap the clock and send a new one.

If it fails after the guaranty, to quote from Blazing Saddles, "your on your own".

And that's when we poor souls come into the picture.
 

tvahsholtz

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I've got one of these models on my workbench now. Thanks for your post - I wouldn't have guessed by default that the face is attached with double sided tape. One must get the face off first, then unscrew the movement that is attached from the back. Thanks again. T
 

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